The fall of Jose: specialist in failure

Discussion in 'Portugal' started by prodigal_mind, Mar 10, 2020.

  1. prodigal_mind

    prodigal_mind Member+

    Cristiano Ronaldo
    Portugal
    Jul 3, 2018
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    Conte took over the next season and won the league with 93 points
    Madrid won the champions league and copa del rey the very next season.
    What a drop off!
     
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  2. SCP21

    SCP21 Member+

    Jul 1, 2011
    Club:
    Sporting CP Lisbon
    #52 SCP21, Jan 14, 2021
    Last edited: Jan 14, 2021
    Going from winning literally everything possible to winning just the league is a drop off. Ignoring all that, conte never coached Inter until 2019. After Mourinho left they went through 5 coaches in two seasons and finished second and then sixth. Again, just to be very clear, they went from winning literally everything possible to crashing down to sixth in the league within two years of him leaving. The only major change being the manager.

    Cute argument though, shows both you guys have no idea what you’re talking about and just hate mourinho for the sake of hating mourinho.
     
  3. prodigal_mind

    prodigal_mind Member+

    Cristiano Ronaldo
    Portugal
    Jul 3, 2018
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    #53 prodigal_mind, Jan 14, 2021
    Last edited: Jan 14, 2021
    The post was talking about Conte taking over Mourinho at Chelsea and winning the league.

    Theres plenty of reasons to hate on Mourinho.
    He loves to take credit when his teams are winning, but as soon as the results are no longer going his way he just publicly scapegoats player x, y and z in the media. Its never his fault. This is what eurodad was talking about when he said he leaves teams in turmoil. This has happened at Chelsea, Man Utd, Real Madrid....and it will probaly happen at Spurs soon. In fact, its already somewhat started at Spurs with how he talks about Dele Alli. If the results keep not going his way he will soon start to attack other places. In Mourinhos delusional ego land, its never his fault. His tactics are perfect...if his team doesnt win its the refs fault, the scheduling, his own players etc.
    This is precisely why hes done as a top coach. He doesnt believe hes doing anything wrong so refuses to evolve his tactics
     
  4. SCP_16

    SCP_16 Member+

    Aug 8, 2004
    Bay Area
    Club:
    Sporting CP Lisbon
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
  5. prodigal_mind

    prodigal_mind Member+

    Cristiano Ronaldo
    Portugal
    Jul 3, 2018
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
  6. prodigal_mind

    prodigal_mind Member+

    Cristiano Ronaldo
    Portugal
    Jul 3, 2018
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    :ROFLMAO:

    If he wins the carabao cup he will still proclaim himself the greatest tottenham coach in history despite this failure of a season
     
  7. prodigal_mind

    prodigal_mind Member+

    Cristiano Ronaldo
    Portugal
    Jul 3, 2018
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    8th place. 5 losses in 6 games
     
  8. BatatasFritas

    BatatasFritas Member+

    Nov 29, 2004
    Toronto
    Club:
    FC Porto
    Not looking good at all
     
  9. GoodDead

    GoodDead Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 8, 2004
    Toronto Canada
    Club:
    Sporting Braga
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    History? no, but it would be their first trophy since 2008.
     
  10. pookspur

    pookspur Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 3, 2001
    Indiana
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    And we* would savour it ... though it really isn't much, if we're honest.

    The fact is that, while he certainly has some fans amongst our support, most are not enamored with Jose Mourinho. First off, the football is dire. I mean, it's really grueling stuff to watch. When it had us at the top of the table, there wasn't all that much complaining; but playing that way without results is tough to stomach - especially for a club that prides itself on playing attractive, attacking football.

    Still, the real problem is that his tactics not only fail to play to his squad's strengths, they appear to accentuate it's weaknesses. I won't bang on here about Spurs, but in reference to the thread's opening premise, I don't see a whole lot of big clubs rushing in for him once his time at ours is done. At best, he'll have done something like his time at Man Utd, a couple of the minor trinkets and then leaving the club worse off than when he came. Granted, we'll have appreciated them more than they do/did, but if you ask most Spurs fans, they'd probably say that we'll be glad to see the back of him, as well.

    Without discounting his prior accomplishments (particularly at Porto), it's difficult to see him accomplishing much without a huge budget. He needs specific players playing in specific roles, and is always going to squander talent that doesn't fit. There just aren't that many clubs that can - or are inclined to - afford his methods. And the football is utter pants. No one wants to watch it.

    I'm still pulling for him. I want him to succeed. But I suspect we're about to see his downward trajectory picking up speed soon. I don't think he'll be considered a top manager anymore (if he even still is) on the day he walks away from Tottenham.


    *I'm Spurs, as I suppose you will have deduced.
     
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  11. prodigal_mind

    prodigal_mind Member+

    Cristiano Ronaldo
    Portugal
    Jul 3, 2018
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    Draw against Arsenal and now loss to Zagreb. His tactics are reminiscent to Pulis and big Sam
     
  12. pookspur

    pookspur Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 3, 2001
    Indiana
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    We didn't draw to Arsenal; we conceded twice and lost. Tonight was very bad for his tenure at Spurs. The wages he's on means he might be in North London until the end of the season. But he won't be there come August. Bank that.
     
  13. SCP_16

    SCP_16 Member+

    Aug 8, 2004
    Bay Area
    Club:
    Sporting CP Lisbon
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    This dude is ASS.

    Mourinho is done. Washed. Primitive. He's done.
     
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  14. prodigal_mind

    prodigal_mind Member+

    Cristiano Ronaldo
    Portugal
    Jul 3, 2018
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    #64 prodigal_mind, Mar 19, 2021
    Last edited: Mar 19, 2021
    You are right. I saw the game but just misremembered lol got tons of work atm :ROFLMAO:

    and you just know that if he flukes a result against city in the Carabao he will deem this season a massive success

    He is a coward in his tactics. Against Arsenal for example, he clearly has the superior squad and stsrting eleven but still opts not press or play attacking.
     
  15. prodigal_mind

    prodigal_mind Member+

    Cristiano Ronaldo
    Portugal
    Jul 3, 2018
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
  16. prodigal_mind

    prodigal_mind Member+

    Cristiano Ronaldo
    Portugal
    Jul 3, 2018
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
  17. grassman

    grassman Member

    May 18, 2006
    Toronto
    Club:
    SL Benfica
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    Reminds me of Capello when he was clearly over the hill, How embarrassing.
     
  18. BatatasFritas

    BatatasFritas Member+

    Nov 29, 2004
    Toronto
    Club:
    FC Porto
    Mourinho is done. Laughing all the way to bank....

    Where does he go from here? Doesn't seem to care anymore :ROFLMAO:
     
  19. prodigal_mind

    prodigal_mind Member+

    Cristiano Ronaldo
    Portugal
    Jul 3, 2018
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    Now hes signed for Roma. Manz getting desperate, taking any job possible
     
  20. BatatasFritas

    BatatasFritas Member+

    Nov 29, 2004
    Toronto
    Club:
    FC Porto
  21. pookspur

    pookspur Moderator
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    Nov 3, 2001
    Indiana
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Spurs are happy, too. Saved the club around 12m pounds in wages that they now won't have to pay from his contract at ours.
     
  22. eurodad

    eurodad Member+

    Mar 15, 2005
    Brampton
    I can see it now, by December when Roma are not playing well, Mourinho will say Rome was not built in a day. lol
     
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  23. BatatasFritas

    BatatasFritas Member+

    Nov 29, 2004
    Toronto
    Club:
    FC Porto
    Mourinho is gonna go old school. He is gonna find all the diamonds in the rough and build a team from the ground up. I give it 2 months :D
     
  24. prodigal_mind

    prodigal_mind Member+

    Cristiano Ronaldo
    Portugal
    Jul 3, 2018
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal


    He is still as delusional as ever. No wonder he never improves, he still thinks his tactics are perfect and he is succeeding
     
  25. Tonel

    Tonel Member

    Sporting
    Aug 22, 2021
    Roma had a bunch of B or C-team players on but it's still embarrassing, as Jose's squad is losing 1-6 to Norwegian club FK Bodo/Glimt in the UEFA Conference League
     

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