The England 'Other Sports' thread

Discussion in 'England' started by Marcho Gamgee, Apr 9, 2016.

  1. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    And surely they have to look at someone to replace Jamie Smith whose batting has become really poor.
     
  2. horrisengleton

    horrisengleton Member+

    Arsenal
    England
    Jul 18, 2023
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Is there actually a lack of young talent coming through? I don't follow county close enough to know. I get what you're saying theoretically but participation rates amongst youngsters are still quite strong.
     
  3. Regis Prograis

    Regis Prograis Member+

    Tottenham Hotspur
    Feb 8, 2020
    I don’t mean to be rude but I’m pretty sure you have very little knowledge of Englands cricketing prospects/pipeline. The talent coming through is no worse than previous generations
     
  4. Regis Prograis

    Regis Prograis Member+

    Tottenham Hotspur
    Feb 8, 2020
    Suggestions?
     
  5. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    No idea but I am not sure they can simply keep him there.
     
  6. Regis Prograis

    Regis Prograis Member+

    Tottenham Hotspur
    Feb 8, 2020
    Come on mate, he averages over 40 (which is very good for a keeper batsman) and you want him out of the team, but you have no suggestions of players you think will do a better job. James Rew is one name, but Smith is worth persisting with.
     
  7. ht_hu96

    ht_hu96 Member+

    Middlesbrough
    England
    May 23, 2019
    Rew?
     
  8. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    I don’t mean for ever but his confidence doesn’t look good at the moment,
     
  9. Regis Prograis

    Regis Prograis Member+

    Tottenham Hotspur
    Feb 8, 2020
    Yeah a possibility, was just checking if Fireburn actually knew any other English Wicket Keepers!
     
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  10. lanman

    lanman BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 30, 2002
    We probably lack openers who are kicking on. ECB are big fans of Ben McKinney, but he's not put together a consistent run of form despite a few stellar knocks. Haseeb Hammed is still only 28, and has started to get his game back after a struggling for a while.
    There's enough middle order batting talent kicking around - the Rew brothers at Somerset, Ben Kellaway looks promising, Matthew Revis had a breakout season for Yorkshire.
     
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  11. lanman

    lanman BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 30, 2002
    We need to be realistic. If they were to drop Smith (which they're not), then we'd have Pope keeping and Bethell batting at 3. They flew Ollie Robinson out to New Zealand to carry drinks.
     
  12. horrisengleton

    horrisengleton Member+

    Arsenal
    England
    Jul 18, 2023
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Much in terms of promising bowlers do you know? I know there's Bashir but he's not convinced for England.
     
  13. ht_hu96

    ht_hu96 Member+

    Middlesbrough
    England
    May 23, 2019


    This is what is so so galling. Even sides with no resources like the Windies have far more about them than we do.
     
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  14. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    I’m not sure they could call him out this time if they wanted to as his wife is heavily pregnant.
     
  15. Regis Prograis

    Regis Prograis Member+

    Tottenham Hotspur
    Feb 8, 2020
    To be fair we pumped New Zealand away last year.
     
  16. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    Only in two of the tests. We lost 1 by 423 runs.
     
  17. Regis Prograis

    Regis Prograis Member+

    Tottenham Hotspur
    Feb 8, 2020
    Spinning wise you've got the Ahmed brother's, pace wise Sonny Baker, Eddie Jack and few other youngsters.
     
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  18. lanman

    lanman BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 30, 2002
    Spin wise, there's Rehan and Farhan Ahmed, although Rehan seems to be focusing more on hist batting and Farhan is still only 17. Somerset have been giving Archie Vaughan a fair bit of playing time, although I've not really seen much of him, and you can't rely on bowling figures from Taunton as any serious guide.
    For the quicker bowlers, James Minto should hopefully get a full season for Durham. Josh Hull has already played a test and clearly has talent, but his first class record is pretty poor.

    The problem we have is that county wickets are typically prepared to favour medium-fast bowling, and there's plenty of experienced bowlers who regularly take wickets so it's difficult for younger players with test potential to break through. It can be difficult to predict how teenage quicks develop as you don't know how much exposure they're going to get.
     
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  19. Regis Prograis

    Regis Prograis Member+

    Tottenham Hotspur
    Feb 8, 2020
    In a dead rubber, I'm all for sticking the boot in, but Windies batting out a draw to New Zealand when we just won a series over there isn't a stick to beat England with.
     
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  20. lanman

    lanman BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 30, 2002
    Yeah, but I'm more emphasising that they'll jig things around to get in Bethell than play another specialist.
     
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  21. lanman

    lanman BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 30, 2002
    Forgot about Baker. He needs to get away from the Somerset pitches really.
     
  22. lanman

    lanman BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 30, 2002
    One who could be worth keeping an eye on is Mitch Killeen, who joined Essex for next season.
    He added a fair bit of pace this year, and if he can get regularly playing time then he could develop quickly.
     
  23. lanman

    lanman BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 30, 2002
    There's also Rocky Flintoff, but he needs to be given some time rather than get pushed because of his name.
     
  24. Regis Prograis

    Regis Prograis Member+

    Tottenham Hotspur
    Feb 8, 2020
    He already did, he’s at Hampshire now!
     
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  25. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    There are calls on social media for Haseeb Hammed to be brought in and made captain.
     

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