The England 'Other Sports' thread

Discussion in 'England' started by Marcho Gamgee, Apr 9, 2016.

  1. lanman

    lanman BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 30, 2002
    Looks like the difference is going to be the death bowling. India good, England not so good.
     
  2. BarryfromEastenders

    Staff Member

    Jul 6, 2008
    Bumrah and the difference in catching in key moments I would say. Great game though and we got pretty close at one point to chasing a wild total.

    Not sure why Overton came in over Archer or Rashid.
     
  3. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    Bethell is going to be so important if we do ever win anything important in the next decade.

    Do wonder how Brook is going to cope as his dropped catch and low score will be blamed by some in the media and on social media. (Plenty in media have a often damaging habit of holding a grudge when they feel someone has lied or disrespected them)
     
  4. Regis Prograis

    Regis Prograis Member+

    Tottenham Hotspur
    Feb 8, 2020
    Overton with a crap cameo there especially the last ball of 19th, almost pulled it off. Not a fan of Indian pitches for T20 not enough in it for the bowlers and silly boundary sizes
     
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  5. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    Surely they needs to a review about why nobody is coming through to replace him. It’s always concerning when a key part of a team is in the twilight of their career and nobody is ready to replace them.
     
  6. lanman

    lanman BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 30, 2002
    We also got the batting line up wrong. Curran is not an international 7, unless your top order is elite and all firing, let alone a 6. He struggled massively with scoring shots.
    An extra good bat in there at 6/7 and that's a major difference in the threat level.
     
  7. Regis Prograis

    Regis Prograis Member+

    Tottenham Hotspur
    Feb 8, 2020
    He's our best ever white ball bowler, what type review do you want? Those types of players don't grow on trees.
     
  8. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    True but having to have a 33 year old in what is normally a fairly young Lions set up does show they are major issues,
     
  9. lanman

    lanman BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 30, 2002
    Dawson bowled one over and was dropped down the order. I know hindsight is 20/20, but he could easily have been left out for Ahmed.
     
  10. Regis Prograis

    Regis Prograis Member+

    Tottenham Hotspur
    Feb 8, 2020
    Well we have 21 year old in this squad who they are grooming, you think India have another Bumrah ready to go after he retires?
     
  11. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    I have no idea,
     
  12. Regis Prograis

    Regis Prograis Member+

    Tottenham Hotspur
    Feb 8, 2020
    They answer is they don't, just like England don't with Rashid, you don't need a review into why there isn't a ready made bowler to replace one of your best ever bowlers!
     
  13. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    #2588 Fireburn47, Mar 5, 2026
    Last edited: Mar 5, 2026
    One thing that is good about cricket is how long and detailed post match interviews last even in defeat.

    McCullum not sure if the ECB will sack him or not. Normally when someone says I want to stay but it’s not up to me they often don’t survive.

    Nasser Hussain now suggesting Stokes and McCullum might have fallen out during the Ashes.

    8 white ball matches against India in the summer. Aim is surely to win at least 4 of those.
     
  14. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
  15. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
     
  16. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    Rassie Erasmus said Steve Borthwick "thinks like a machine" as South Africa's double World Cup-winning coach attempted to give his backing to his under-fire England counterpart - The Telegraph

    Jamie George admitted that England have sorely lacked "spirit and fight" in consecutive defeats by Scotland and Ireland but believes their recent Six Nations collapse will prove to be a "defining moment" for the team - The Telegraph
     
  17. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
  18. Ste walker

    Ste walker Member

    Dec 2, 2016
    Club:
    Leeds United AFC
    Yes rassie full of crap… get a real coach in now
     
  19. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    #2594 Fireburn47, Mar 7, 2026
    Last edited: Mar 7, 2026
    Surely time for Borthwick to go.
     
  20. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Fortunately I couldn’t see the game, probably a good thing considering how it went but at least my prediction came to pass that we would probably lose the game……..Borthwick out!!
     
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  21. Ste walker

    Ste walker Member

    Dec 2, 2016
    Club:
    Leeds United AFC
    Itoje has been poor for a while now. Need to move on from borthwick and a few of the players
     
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  22. horrisengleton

    horrisengleton Member+

    Arsenal
    England
    Jul 18, 2023
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    The media kept talking post Scotland and Ireland like they were defeats that came as part of a learning process for a building team, but it's hard to see exactly what's being built.

    The problem for a coach like Borthwick is that his style priorities effectiveness over everything else, and the team look the complete opposite of effective. They're blunt going forward and soft at the back. What's left at that point?
     
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  23. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    They look like something is badly wrong behind the scenes. Compared to the last couple of years when they look untied and happy and now they look as if they all hate each other.
     
  24. horrisengleton

    horrisengleton Member+

    Arsenal
    England
    Jul 18, 2023
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    We have no way of knowing exactly what it is but it's very hard to see how this is a project that's moving in a positive direction. We know full well that Borthwick won't face any consequences even if (when) we get tonked by France.
     
  25. MrSnrub

    MrSnrub Member+

    Oct 7, 2018
    It reminds me a lot of when Lancaster was manager and England's horrible performances were continually excused by the pundits as some process and learning experience...for 4 years.....culminating in the disastrous 2015 world cup. Then when Jones took over the side instantly looked ten times better with a good coach.

    Almost exactly the same record as Borthwick too.

    For the toxic negativity the football team has historically had the rugby team has often suffered from a opposite and similar delusional positivity excusing the inexcusable.
     

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