Sir Bobby & the rest - thread for ex-Utd players or products

Discussion in 'Manchester United' started by Dark Savante, Mar 31, 2008.

  1. Futbol_Head

    Futbol_Head Member+

    Manchester United
    Aug 18, 2007
    Bay Area, CA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Man, I'm about 2/3 of the way through and there have been a couple stories that had me tearing up. Particularly the ones about his debut, not being able to get a ride to training, and the incident where he got caught stealing boots from the first team locker room. It's really sad to see his lack of self belief, I don't think he ever really thought he would make it.

    He certainly didn't do himself any favors but we really let him down.
     
  2. Ruud v.Nistelrooy 10

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    Jamaica
    Jun 4, 2006
    Antilla
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Jamaica
  3. Ashur

    Ashur Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    May 31, 2015
    Riding off into the sunset
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    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  4. Sofabloke

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    Dec 24, 2003
    Mu
    Club:
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    :)
     
  5. Sofabloke

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    Dec 24, 2003
    Mu
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    Manchester United FC
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  6. Ashur

    Ashur Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    May 31, 2015
    Riding off into the sunset
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    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
     
  7. jnielsen

    jnielsen Member+

    May 12, 2012
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    A ways out to know this for sure, isn't it?
     
  8. Ashur

    Ashur Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    May 31, 2015
    Riding off into the sunset
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    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  9. jnielsen

    jnielsen Member+

    May 12, 2012
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Time for the old geezer to retire?
     
  10. Ashur

    Ashur Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    May 31, 2015
    Riding off into the sunset
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    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
     
  11. Ashur

    Ashur Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    May 31, 2015
    Riding off into the sunset
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    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  12. Ashur

    Ashur Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    May 31, 2015
    Riding off into the sunset
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    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  13. Ashur

    Ashur Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    May 31, 2015
    Riding off into the sunset
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    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  14. Ashur

    Ashur Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    May 31, 2015
    Riding off into the sunset
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    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  15. Ashur

    Ashur Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    May 31, 2015
    Riding off into the sunset
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Love the cool nuggets of information you get from these interviews. The one I found very interesting was SAF preventing Ruud from winning the Golden Boot for the 2001-02 season, by taking him out of the squad completely for the final game of the season.
    Didn't win any trophies as a team that season and the Boss wanted to send a clear message to everyone, including Ruud. Came back the following season and beat his goal total (both in the league and overall) and we got the league back.
    The real 'mentality monsters' right there.
     
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  16. J'can

    J'can Member+

    Jul 3, 2007
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Love SAF but that was a cnut move.
     
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  17. Ashur

    Ashur Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    May 31, 2015
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    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's all a matter of perspective imo. We were a different team back then and that season, not only did we achieve our lowest finish in the league in over 10yrs, but we didn't win a single trophy to boot. Despite going to the CL semis that season, this was considered a mediocre season for us.
    Might be cold on some level, but there is no doubt that the message was received loud and clear, not just by Ruud but to the whole team in general. And when it's all said and done, it worked: can't really argue with the methods, if they end up paying off in the end...
     
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  18. jnielsen

    jnielsen Member+

    May 12, 2012
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    We'll never know if it truly was SAF's move that made the difference.
     
  19. Sofabloke

    Sofabloke Member+

    Dec 24, 2003
    Mu
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Worth watching the vid (is around 24th minute in) and RVN takeaway from that - specifically he says watching the last game of the season from the stands left him more motivated for the new season and made it clear that he had to connect his goals with titles - as that was the nature of the new club he had moved to.

    For me it shows the main thing that made SAF different - specifically his ability to read what will push different players buttons (his management style clearly changes with different personality types) and ultimately keep them focussed on their performance levels for the team.
     
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  20. Deadtigers

    Deadtigers Member+

    Jul 23, 2015
    Independent Republic of the Bronx, NY
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ghana
    Got around to seeing the Vibe with 5 with Ravel on and it was madness. He was on one of those last chance you backstories while playing for a massive club. Seemed when the one youth coach moved on he lost a key shepherd. I can't believe he didnt have a consistent way to get back. I really hope he does manage to play for Jamaica and help them to a WC. Something hold onto in this crazy life he has had.
     
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  21. benni...

    benni... BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 23, 2004
    Chocolate City
    Imagine playing for Manchester United and you cant get to training. Like not one player volunteered?

    A lot of people on this forum have continually shat on him and berate him because of shit they read. This kid was clearly different and had issues.

    Listening to that and also hearing Rio admit the club let him down, makes me sad. But this is the business.
     
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  22. Deadtigers

    Deadtigers Member+

    Jul 23, 2015
    Independent Republic of the Bronx, NY
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ghana
    The part where the guy quoted Brian McClair and said "who brings him to training?" Struck as something to keep in my mind when I become a rugby admin again.
     
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  23. Ashur

    Ashur Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    May 31, 2015
    Riding off into the sunset
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Ole mentioned he wouldn't have let Evans leave: "It is what it is, football sometimes takes you elsewhere. I'm sure he has feelings for United and they are mutual. It's a pleasure to see him play as well as he is"
     
  24. Chaz Striker

    Chaz Striker Member+

    Jul 26, 2005
    Denver
    Out of the three we still have Phillip Jones
     
  25. Ashur

    Ashur Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    May 31, 2015
    Riding off into the sunset
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

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