The Elizabeth Warren Thread

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  1. tomwilhelm

    tomwilhelm Member+

    Dec 14, 2005
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    I know Brown and Warren jointly turned down outside money to keep things civil, but you'd hope he'd have at least taken advantage of some of the strategy advisers available through the national GOPACs. Because his local people are ********ing morons.
     
  2. Mattbro

    Mattbro Member+

    Sep 21, 2001
    I like watching/listening to the crowd reaction at these debates. Is that going to be allowed in any of the presidential debates or tonight's VP debate? Seems a little sterile without it.
     
  3. SoFla Metro

    SoFla Metro Member

    Jul 21, 2000
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    At least at some point he was using some of the same advisors as Romney. Just sayin'
     
  4. klattamaniac

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  5. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

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    Wow. Is he trying to lose?
     
  6. charlie15

    charlie15 Member+

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    He is done trying....He lost already. Unless Elizabeth Warren comes out and declares herself a taliban witch, she will be the next senator of Ma. The latest poll gives her a 9 point lead (53-44).
    Scotty Brown is cooked. You can stick a fork in him.
     
  7. TheSlipperyOne

    TheSlipperyOne Member+

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    Who'd have thunk our Senate would ever allow a Native American Taliban Witch?
     
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  8. ToMhIlL

    ToMhIlL Member+

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    Interesting that Brown woudl go with the "paid actor" tactic. I heard an ad of his on radio the other day where several people--all of them women--speak glowingly about how he is "for women" and all that. They go on to tout a record that would make a liberal democrat proud, such as being pro-choice (2 different times) and being "for equal pay for women." (I don't know his record on that last one, but it should be easy enough to check). But being tied to Romney, and in a pivotal Senate seat that could be the difference between passing legislation and not, and being a guy who never has voted against his party when it was close, you have to wonder.

    So who are these people? They are not identified, although one says she is a grad student. Could these women be (gasp!) "paid actors?"
     
  9. ElJefe

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    Can somebody explain the whole Elizabeth Warren-Indian thing to me? I think I get it, but since it seems so goddamned stupid, I'm not sure.
     
  10. chaski

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    Warren speak with forked tongue.
     
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  11. Dr. Wankler

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    Also want to put heap big regulation on banks. Cost banks heap big wampum.
     
  12. Smurfquake

    Smurfquake Moderator
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    Joking aside, if you've identified it as "so goddamned stupid" that it doesn't make sense, you've probably figured it out. Apparently, at some point, Warren was identified as a native american, and people who don't like her believe that this gave her an unfair advantage in her career. Mr Warmth shot this down a few weeks ago -- see post #231 in this very thread.
     
  13. ElJefe

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    OK, my understanding of it is that she had some American Indian ancestor a few generations back, and is thus a small fraction American Indian. Because of this, as I understand it, she was able to claim American Indian ancestry (or it was claimed for her) somewhere along the way because whatever it was had a very low threshold for doing so. And as I understand it, this has caused great consternation to some Massachusetts crackers who think that her claims are fraudulent because she doesn't look like the girl on the front of the Land O' Lakes box and/or she doesn't live on the rez.

    Is my understanding of this correct?
     
  14. Smurfquake

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    Bingo. Mr Warmth's takedown was on how unlikely it is that claiming Native American ancestry would actually be useful or helpful to her career -- but Republicans apparently think that being a minority gives you an easy path to success, like when Romney said at his "47%" fundraiser that he'd have it easier if he were Latino. No, Mitt, you wouldn't.
     
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  15. That Phat Hat

    That Phat Hat Member+

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    You say that, and then you see all those Latinos getting elected to the White House left and right.
     
  16. Smurfquake

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    Yeah, as Rosie Perez puts it in the video below -- there was Jorge Washington, and Jorge Bush, uno y dos.

     
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  17. Dr. Wankler

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    Presidente Jimmy Smits cracked me up.
     
  18. chaski

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    She doesn't even look like Natalie Wood in "The Searchers."
     
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  19. roadkit

    roadkit Greetings from the Fringe of Obscurity

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    I think it has more to do with people seeing a white girl claiming a minority preference for a government subsidy that obviously wasn't meant for her.
     
  20. Smurfquake

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    But that's not what actually happened. Does that matter?
     
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  21. Minnman

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    What subsidy?
     
  22. The Devil's Architect

    Feb 10, 2000
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  23. roadkit

    roadkit Greetings from the Fringe of Obscurity

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    Not a subsidy per se, but the perception she was claiming a heritage to gain an advantage she was not entitled to.
     
  24. The Devil's Architect

    Feb 10, 2000
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    Do you know how minority preference in hiring actually works?
     
  25. tomwilhelm

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