The Education Thread

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  1. soccernutter

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    The legendary PCC. Same place I started, and almost failed out of (those were my heavy drinking days). When were you there? I was fall 91 to Spring 96.
     
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  2. luftmensch

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    That’s hilarious, we were there at the same time, fall 91-summer 94 for me. I was in bad days those first couple years as well, more weed and psychedelics than drinking but that too. Cleaned up my act for the third year though, thankfully.
     
  3. Dr. Wankler

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    That’s too bad about Chalmers. His theory of consciousness is really interesting.
     
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  4. soccernutter

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    I wonder if we had the same classes, though not sure if we'd have ever seen each other. :D:ninja:
     
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  5. Given both accounts of illicit substances abuses I guess it would be a blurred, warped or otherwise interesting malformation of how you looked.
     
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  6. soccernutter

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    This is not too far off from me as a 14 or 15 year old. Hair not quite as long (both front and back) and eyes are blue, but yeah. It's freaking me out how much this looks like me in high school.

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    Take off the braces, and that was me until I did my study abroad and told the hair cut person to do whatever she wanted.
     
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  7. luftmensch

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    He was a good guy, but kind of a spaz and you could tell he’d rather be doing something other than teaching. He wasn’t long for such a relatively small time school either.
     
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  8. luftmensch

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    My attendance was actually decent for the classes I chose to stick with. My problem was dropping out of things that ceased to interest me. Which I usually did in time to not fail the class but…not always.
     
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  9. MattR

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    A younger me would have gone to "Let me Google That For You."

    https://www.schev.edu/research-publications/reports-publications/2024-25-tuition-and-fees-report

    Note that these are per semester, so multiply by two for a year, and eight for total costs (if you graduate in 4 years).

    I had a conversation with my Italian friend when our children were 4 and 5 years old. He mentioned that he paid 45% or so in taxes - but healthcare, college education, and retirement were paid for by the government. I pay about 38% in taxes, and the biggest financial concerns of most middle class families are healthcare, college education, and retirement.
     
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  10. roby

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  11. Germerica

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    #4711 Germerica, May 28, 2025
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    Incredible plan

    New SF public school plan would

    - eliminate homework and weekly tests from counting toward semester grade
    - allow students to take the final exam multiple times
    - convert all B grades into As, and all Fs into Cs

     
  12. soccernutter

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    How much have you read on this? Did you read the article linked?
     
  13. ElNaranja

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    He can read??????
     
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  14. Germerica

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    I did. It’s ridiculous.
     
  15. soccernutter

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    Why is it being done?
     
  16. Dr. Wankler

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    Thanks. Now I don’t have guess which Ignored Content this is.
     
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  17. Germerica

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    It’s supposed to “help” disadvantaged students. Which is a ridiculous assessment.
     
  18. roby

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    The migrants are all being deported thus more field workers are needed! :thumbsup:
     
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  19. soccernutter

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    Sure. But it is a difficult thing to do. Not sure how much you know about education, but one of the issues is that students who do not eat a meal before school perform less well. Add on to that lunch, and then make it habitual, and it harms disadvantaged students. And since a number of students don't quality for school lunches (and apparently have food issues), it is a difficult thing to deal with.

    The question is what do you do? It is a decision that really does not have any wins. As a former teacher, I disagree with the decision not to include homework and tests (weekly tests?!?! I never gave a weekly test as that is just too much), but also understand the need to deal with students who are at a disadvantage. And for a majority of my career, I did work in schools that were Title I schools, so I am well aware of the problems. Coming out of the pandemic, what I did (and so did a lot of my fellow teachers in my school) was give guidelines as to due dates for homework, but a fixed end-of-quarter/semester to get all homework in, reducing the load as the term went on. The problem is that these students have so many other issues than just food it is a massive challenge to get them ready to advance, and to graduate. I mean, if a student doesn't necessarily have a stable home life, having them not advance from any particular class can lead them to out on the street (unhoused, dealing drugs, etc).

    Situations like I experienced, and like what is in the article, are why I advocate more for districts to give guidelines and let any particular school manage their own situation within those guidelines. This is on top of rethinking how education should be done.
     
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  20. ElNaranja

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    If school children want food, they can pull themselves up by the boot straps with a monthly subscription of $19.99 for the straps and a onetime payment of $100 for the boots. But wait, there's more! Instead of $100, how about 6 monthly payments of $20!?!

    Tldr, feeding children is woke so let's disband DoE
     
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  21. Pønch

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    Aug 23, 2006
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    And cut food stamp programs so rich f*cks can get another tax break, its only fair!!!!11111
     
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  22. Germerica

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    He’s right. The ridiculousness is something to behold.

     
  23. Germerica

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    MIT has scrapped its DEI office.
     
  24. soccernutter

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    What's the solution to help disadvantaged students?

    Saying "not that" is easy. But actually have solutions is hard.
     
  25. ElNaranja

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    Arkansas has the answer: send them to the mines! Or Florida - let them work full time overtime with no extra breaks including late night shifts with no issues.

    Etc etc
     
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