The Education Thread

Discussion in 'Politics & Current Events' started by saosebastiao, Jan 4, 2008.

  1. soccernutter

    soccernutter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Tottenham Hotspur
    Aug 22, 2001
    Near the mountains.
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I thought the James Gang was from Missouri.
     
  2. Auriaprottu

    Auriaprottu Member+

    Atlanta Damn United
    Apr 1, 2002
    The back of the bus
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    They were, AFAIK. Northfield was the site of that failed robbery.
     
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  3. chaski

    chaski Moderator
    Staff Member

    Mar 20, 2000
    redacted
    Club:
    Lisburn Distillery FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Turks and Caicos Islands
    Let's get back on topic - Education

    History does record
    It was Bob and Charley Ford
    That laid poor Jesse in his grave
     
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  4. JohnR

    JohnR Member+

    Jun 23, 2000
    Chicago, IL
    #3854 JohnR, Mar 11, 2020
    Last edited: Mar 11, 2020
    My son is working as an SAT tutor for a guy who was admitted to an Ivy League university in autumn of her junior year. (Nice trick, that.)

    He is a recruited athlete who isn't all that good at school, and especially at tests. Fortunately, the university gave him a low hurdle -- if he scores 300 points lower than my son did, his provisional acceptance becomes permanent. (Not that any Ivy accepted my kid, of course.)

    He probably won't pass, because to quote my boy - 1) "He's kinda dumb" and 2) "He never does her homework." This despite the fact that he gets 50% more time to take the test, although he has no disability, because "his rich kid family got some doctor to sign a note."

    Such an American tale.
     
  5. russ

    russ Member+

    Feb 26, 1999
    Canton,NY
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wait I'm unsure of the gender of the dumb jock.
     
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  6. JohnR

    JohnR Member+

    Jun 23, 2000
    Chicago, IL
    Sorry, "he." I was multitasking. Probably more coddled and lazy than dumb, the kid was venting a bit because it's frustrating to try to teach somebody who can't be bothered.
     
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  7. russ

    russ Member+

    Feb 26, 1999
    Canton,NY
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Could Daddy name a building on campus?That usually gets Junior in 10/10.
     
  8. JohnR

    JohnR Member+

    Jun 23, 2000
    Chicago, IL
    That is a 10, recruited athlete is a 9.
     
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  9. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

    May 2, 2001
    The Electric City
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    What's the sport?
     
  10. JohnR

    JohnR Member+

    Jun 23, 2000
    Chicago, IL
    Lacrosse.
     
  11. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

    May 2, 2001
    The Electric City
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    The internet tells me Harvard lacrosse is, to be polite, not a dynasty.
     
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  12. JohnR

    JohnR Member+

    Jun 23, 2000
    Chicago, IL
    There is a 1 in 8 chance the school in question is Harvard.
     
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  13. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

    May 2, 2001
    The Electric City
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    WTF made me think Harvard? Yale, Penn, Cornell and Dartmouth would've been better guesses.
     
  14. russ

    russ Member+

    Feb 26, 1999
    Canton,NY
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Princeton is the top Ivy these days.Hes probably not good enough for 'cuse.
     
  15. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    12 Republicans cross party lines to smackdown DeVos' rule that would make it harder for defrauded students (like Trump U students) to have debts forgiven.

    More surprising is how Trumpism has seeped into govt. departments. Like this DOE asshat

    "It's disappointing to see so many in Congress fooled by misinformation from the Left and the fake news narrative about our efforts to protect students from fraud," Angela Morabito, an Education Department spokesperson, said in a statement responding to the vote.

    https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/11/betsy-devos-senate-vote-student-debt-relief-125826
     
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  16. Q*bert Jones III

    Q*bert Jones III The People's Poet

    Feb 12, 2005
    Woodstock, NY
    Club:
    DC United
    They should relegate Donald Trump's alma mater and promote Vassar in its place.
     
  17. stanger

    stanger BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 29, 2008
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Who is that quote from? Your kid or the one on an IEP?
     
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  18. JohnR

    JohnR Member+

    Jun 23, 2000
    Chicago, IL
    The kid. He ain't buying it. Getting extra time is a rich kid scam, half the students in his high school get doctors to write such notes. OK not half but a lot. I'm betting that damn few working-class students get that privilege.
     
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  19. stanger

    stanger BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 29, 2008
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    My kids are on IEP's and get extra time as well as a reduced curriculum.

    Talking to their intervention specialists, there is a high number of kids at their HS that are on some kind of IEP for various reasons, dyslexia, processing delay, learning disabilities.

    It's pretty shitty for you to make a blanket statement like that.
     
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  20. JohnR

    JohnR Member+

    Jun 23, 2000
    Chicago, IL
    The point was not about the practice of giving some students extra time, it is about the practice being abused by those who use it as a trick to help their already privileged children. I am assuming that does not apply to you.
     
  21. stanger

    stanger BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 29, 2008
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Just because your son can't see the disability doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

    That was my point.

    For you to say any rich kid can get a doctor's note to get an extra 30 minutes to take an exam is just you talking out of your ass.
     
  22. JohnR

    JohnR Member+

    Jun 23, 2000
    Chicago, IL
    Technically, my son. I will check with him to see if he's sure of his assertion. Ah never mind that, here's a NY Times article on the practice.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/30/us/extra-time-504-sat-act.html

    You sure were certain of yourself.
     
  23. stanger

    stanger BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 29, 2008
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Am am "certain" of myself.

    You made a blanket statement not knowing if the kid in question actually has a disability.

    It was a shitty thing to say.
     
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  24. JohnR

    JohnR Member+

    Jun 23, 2000
    Chicago, IL
    Your concern for the anonymous person is duly noted.
     
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  25. Walia Ibex

    Walia Ibex Red Card

    Arsenal
    Ethiopia
    Oct 2, 2019
    What I'm wondering with school closures from university level down to K-12 how will the face of education and instruction change to meet this pandemic of Covid19 and afterwards.

    If public officials are bannjng public gatherings of large amounts of people from 100-1k in some cities, shutting down museums, sports brought to a halt isn't it half ass to continue to let school in session. K-12 campuses range from small to massive but aren't schools a prefect vector to spread this disease?

    Yes young people or school age children aren't getting sick or have died thankfully, but they can carry it and pass it off at home or in the general public. New York said it banned all gatherings at public places but not schools and mass transit doesn't that defeat the purpose of social distancing?

    For many parents school is daycare and an all day event for their kids to be educated but also to socialize and to be watched. With school closures parents will be overburdened. It's complicated but to get it under control they will have to address schools nationwide and its temporary closure.
     
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