The economics of Title IX and men's college soccer

Discussion in 'Business and Media' started by beineke, Dec 21, 2002.

  1. beineke

    beineke New Member

    Sep 13, 2000
    It's rare to find an athletic director who'll speak on the record about Title IX. Here's a piece about soccer at the University of Minnesota, dated Sept 21, 1999. The quoted section makes reference to Michigan's decision to add men's soccer.
    http://www.mndaily.com/daily/1999/09/21/sports/mensoc/
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    "I think this was part of Michigan's approved, gender equity plan," [Minnesota men's athletic director] Mark Dienhart said. "How they were able to add a men's program and really have the same amount of women's participants that Minnesota does, I don't know. They probably have different legal advice than we do. It's legal advice I'd like to hear."

    Dienhart said the cost of a men's varsity soccer team at Minnesota would be around $300,000 and was convinced the funds could be raised privately.

    But even if the money literally walked into Dienhart's office, the men's athletic department couldn't do anything because of Title IX restrictions.
     
  2. negativetouch

    negativetouch Member

    Jul 8, 2002
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    I'm not sure but

    I just read an article on three DII schools that were reviving their football programs. That article conveyed that since all funding was coming from outside of the athletic department that it didn't effect Title IX ratios since it wasn't university money.
    I don't know if this is correct but it seems like if someone wanted to foot the bill for the program other than the University you could add programs like soccer.
     
  3. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    Raleigh NC
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    1. Why would you start a new thread??? Why not add this to the other TItle IX discussions???
    2. Mods, move this to college and amateur. Or else I'm doing a Blackburn-ManU pbp thread here tomorrow. Can't have anarchy.
     
  4. Andy_B

    Andy_B Member+

    Feb 2, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Thanx for the post Beineke, that was an interesting read.

    I am glad you posted here and please continue. This is an important topic concerning the business side of sports and I would never find these items buried on the college forum.

    Andy
     
  5. geordienation

    geordienation Moderator

    Apr 21, 2001
    Chicago
    Club:
    Newcastle United FC
    Unless there are serious objections, this thread will stay here for a while. It seems to be where most of the Title IX discussion has congregated. And the last thread was wiped out in the attack.
     
  6. Emile

    Emile Member

    Oct 24, 2001
    dead in a ditch
  7. USAsoccer

    USAsoccer Member

    Jul 15, 1999
    Tampa, Florida
    Interesting article. One suggestion about cutting coaching salaries to a max 200,000, will, IMHO, have very little impact.

    Take FSU for example. Bobby Bowden reportedly makes 2 million a year. But FSU only pays him around 170,000 (give or take). The rest of it comes from outside sources (namely, the Boosters) not associated with the University.

    Cutting Football scholarships to 60 will ONLY WORK, if you get rid of porportionaility, and go to the 50-50 rule. Why? Because a lot of schools, rather than taking those 25 football scholarships, and using the them to add soccer or wrestling, will instead, not add ANY SPORT, and use it to acheive this moving target of porportionality.

    The 50/50 rule is the best compromise. If you have 200 men's sports scholarships, then you must offer 200 women's sports scholarships. Equality! What a concept!
     

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