The Dutch Women NT Thread

Discussion in 'The Netherlands' started by DRB300, Oct 31, 2014.

  1. PuckVanHeel

    PuckVanHeel BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Oct 4, 2011
    Club:
    Feyenoord
    Btw, only Sweden, Germany and Brazil have had both a men and women team in the world championship final.
     
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  2. Brilliant Dutch

    Brilliant Dutch Member+

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Oct 14, 2013
    Amsterdam, Holland
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
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  3. Wouldnot it nice if we can add to that after sunday:
    ..., because they're better. It takes a cup however to do that.:D

    Come on , ladies...Embarrass our Men team with a World Title:)
     
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  4. The match vs Sweden was watched by over 5 million in the Netherlands and made it the best watched soccer match in the last 5 years:eek:
    The Euro 2017 Final pulled in 4.1 million!
    Wonder what the numbers for this Final are going to be.
     
  5. bunbohue

    bunbohue Member+

    Apr 5, 2005
    Perhaps she save her first goal for the final. She needs to have better crossing and better finish instead of just running fast down the flank, and possibly learn from the American wingers (Press, Heath or Rapinoe) who can head, strike, dribble and fast.
     
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  7. White/Blue_since1860

    Orange14 is gay
    Jan 4, 2007
    Bum zua City
    Club:
    TSV 1860 München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    And Germany is the only country to have won both. In 2007 even without conceding a single goal. Way to go my friend.... way to go
     
  8. First we win this WC and then we field Miedema and Groenen in the Orange Lions team for the next WC.
     
  9. White/Blue_since1860

    Orange14 is gay
    Jan 4, 2007
    Bum zua City
    Club:
    TSV 1860 München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I wish you guys all the best of luck for tomorrow. That said, I wouldnt wanna waste either of them in the heat of Katar. But there's a Euro in between and Munich is a venue so I wouldnt mind seeing them playing at AA
     
  10. Orange14

    Orange14 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 27, 2007
    Bethesda, MD
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Women's Euro is in England, correct?
     
  11. White/Blue_since1860

    Orange14 is gay
    Jan 4, 2007
    Bum zua City
    Club:
    TSV 1860 München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Yes, I was referring to the men's pan-European Euro in 2020 as we were talking about including player's to your men squad
     
  12. https://www.ad.nl/wk-vrouwenvoetbal/leeuwinnen-op-rapport-van-sjaan-tot-sari~a2230d11/
    use google translate for the reports on each player
    Ratings of the Orange Lionesses in this WC campaign:
    Sari van Veenendaal (29) 8,5
    played 660 minutes
    Desiree van Lunteren (26) 7
    played 660 minutes
    Stefanie van der Gragt (26) 7,5
    Speeltijd: 476 minuten

    Dominique Bloodworth (24) 7,5
    played 660 minutes

    Merel van Dongen (26) 6,5
    played 409 minutes

    Sherida Spitse (29) 7,5
    played 640 minutes

    Daniëlle van de Donk (27) 7,5
    played 632 minutes

    Jackie Groenen (24) 8
    played 645 minutes

    Shanice van de Sanden (26) 5
    played 430 minutes

    Vivianne Miedema (22) 7,5
    played 656 minutes

    Lieke Martens (26) 6,5
    played 544 minutes


    Subs:
    Kika van Es (27) 5

    played 160 minutes

    Anouk Dekker (32)7
    played 256 minutes

    Jill Roord (22) 7
    played 158 minutes

    Lineth Beerensteyn (22) 7
    played 267 minutes


    Bondscoach Sarina Wiegman (49) 8







     
  13. In the aftermath af the Orange Lionesses success it's necessary to dampen some euphoric believes regarding the Women Eredivisie.
    The Orange Lionesses have been a boon to the rise of girls soccer in the Netherlands. It's the fastest growing sport.
    However, it's by far not the most popular sport for girls/women.
    Number one in organised sports is gymnastics, followed by field hockey. Soccer is 6th.
    It's growing fast, but when unorganised sports are added likeyoga, running, walking, cycling, fitness, soccer's growth is lagging behind those.

    The Orange Lionesses success makes for ridiculous prophecies about the Women Eredivisie. It's not going to happen. It will stay a sub par league because it lacks the support needed to be financially a success. I wonder where those people with their rosy views get their information from? A fact is that it already is hard for many Male Eredivisie clubs to make ends meet. So in that limited financial pond there would be room for a thriving Women Eredivisie? Who are they kidding?
    We barely manage to have 8 teams in it and most of the players arenot professionals at all.
    I therefore donot get the plug yanked out for the Women BeNed Liga we had a couple of years. If it is for financial reasons (cost of travelling etc) it tells enough.
    No, the only reason for the existance of the Women Eredivisie is to have a platform for our future stars to play and be scouted by clubs in the leagues with real competition. There's where the future of our Orange Lionesses world stage successes are being created.

    Our system of scouting and developing is the key to future success. The finishing touches in regard to fitness and competitiveness lie in the big leagues.
     
  14. Orange14

    Orange14 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 27, 2007
    Bethesda, MD
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    The professional league in the US has the same problems!!! Attendance is miserable except for the Portland team. Our local team that Rose Lavelle plays for only attracts about 3000 per match. Average attendance across the league is only 5000. there was very little television of matches though 12 or so matches now will be televised for the remainder of the season. The US NT will be playing some post WC friendlies and this will take players away from their clubs!!! Can you imagine what would happen if a mens NT tried to do this and club teams lost players for certain matches?

    The salaries of most of the star players are paid for by the US FA and not the club teams as they don't have the money. We only have nine teams in the league. this is not a recipe for financial success and I think some more teams might fold. I think some of the women's leagues in Europe have more potential in terms of growth.
     
  15. That's why the college connection for the US women is so vital. I wonder if in the States there was something like the Dutch educational system, not expensive and accessible for those without money, women soccer in the States still would be able to churn out the talents like now.
     
  16. https://www.ad.nl/wk-vrouwenvoetbal/wiegman-krijgt-standbeeld-in-knvb-tuin~aefd8673/
    Wiegman krijgt standbeeld in KNVB-tuin

    De succesvolle bondscoach Sarina Wiegman krijgt als eerste vrouw een beeld in de beeldentuin op de campus van de KNVB in Zeist. De trainster (49), die de Nederlandse voetbalsters naar WK-zilver leidde, wordt toegevoegd aan de tuin waar al beelden te vinden zijn van onder anderen Willem van Hanegem, Rinus Michels en Johan Cruijff.

    Sportredactie 9 jul. 2019 Laatste update: 18:39

    Wiegman voegt zich tussen illustere namen en krijgt standbeeld bij ...

    https://www.vi.nl/.../wiegman-voegt-zich-tussen-illustere-namen-en-krijgt-standbeeld-...

    11 uur geleden - Sarina Wiegman krijgt haar eigen standbeeld bij de KNVB.
     
  17. https://equalizersoccer.com/2019/07...ewers-fans-womens-world-cup-final-loss-uswnt/
    2019 Women's World Cup
    Despite loss in final, Netherlands still won over a nation
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    Photo Copyright Daniela Porcelli
    LYON, France — When the United States and Netherlands left the Stade de Lyon after the Women’s World Cup final, each team had the feel of being a winner in its own way – even if only one of them could go home with a trophy.

    Granted, Dutch players won’t see the 2-0 defeat to the United States as a victory, but what they did win was the respect from a global audience, and from those in America, with some predicting a heavy scoreline in favor of the defending champions.

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    After Netherlands’ semifinal victory over Sweden, midfielder Danielle van de Donk stated that she didn’t think the United States thought that the Dutch were very good. And while the U.S. players will not have underestimated them, it would be accurate to suggest that some, not all, didn’t rate the Dutch.

    To be fair, American fans had reason to be confident. Netherlands have been less than convincing in some of their matches leading to the final, failing to find that swagger and energy that saw them claim a shock European title two years ago in front of their home fans.

    But these were the European champions, and despite never really hitting top gear in the tournament, they had match-winners that were able to propel them into the final.

    Vivianne Miedema, four years older and four years more experienced than the teenager who had the weight of a nation on her shoulders in Canada, played with more confidence and showed why she is now rated as one of the best in the world. The midfield three of Sherida Spitse, Jackie Groenen and van de Donk once again proved a handful for opposition during the competition, while keeper Sari van Veenendaal went on to win the Golden Glove.

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    Danielle van de Donk (Photo by Daniela Porcelli/Getty Images)

    The moments of brilliance, however, tended to even out due to some sub-par performances against Italy, albeit in the heat of Valenciennes, and their semifinal win over Sweden, which had fans praying to the gods that the game would not enter extra time after an uneventful encounter that saw little from either side.

    Add all this up, and there were some that felt the U.S. would coast in the final. So van de Donk was right: some really didn’t think the Dutch were very good.

    But when you reach a final in just your second Women’s World Cup, you tend to win a lot of fans as the underdogs. The Dutch caused the U.S. problems towards the end of the first half, and all of a sudden, the Oranje were showing why they were European Champions.

    It wasn’t enough, of course, and while they were unable to win their first World Cup for men or women, they and their fans had won the hearts of the viewing public. After the final, van de Donk said she was “proud” of her team and the Netherlands, and that pride will have no doubt stemmed from proving a few people wrong. They’d lost the match, but they had won respect.

    So what now for the Dutch?

    Well, 5.1 million people in Netherlands watched the defeat to the U.S., which equates to a share of 88 percent of those watching TV at that time (what were the other 12 percent watching?). That figure brought the total figure of people who watched the tournament in the country to over 23 million, highlighting that there is considerable interest in Sarina Wiegman’s side.

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    L-R: Shanice van de Sanden, Vivianne Miedema, Sari van Veenendaal (Photo by Lewis Gettier)

    One thing Wiegman will need to address is the form of some of her star players. Shanice van de Sanden did not look at her dynamic best, and Lieke Martens was replaced on a few occasions after failing to hit the heights of 2017 (and while dealing with a nagging injury).

    But a few tweaks, including Wiegman perhaps giving her forwards a little more freedom to express themselves – much like they did in 2017 – could be the catalyst for more success for the Oranje.

    The squad has largely stayed consistent since the EURO 2017 triumph, and few are at the age that would see them removed from consideration for the 2021 EUROs in England, where they will of course defend their title.

    But it’s defensively that the Netherlands may need to look at what options they have. For the most part, they are a solid, reliable unit, but there can be errors that creep in. The penalty that Stefanie van der Gragt gave away to Alex Morgan in the final was soft, but it was also a rash high boot, while Rose Lavelle was allowed to travel a long way before unleashing her left-foot effort to make it 2-0.

    No player in the Dutch squad had a tournament to forget, but despite making the final, few lit the tournament up like their opponents, with numerous members of the U.S. receiving plaudits for their performances.

    The Dutch need to find that swagger, that quick transitional player that terrified teams at their home EUROs. They need to rekindle that high press that completely stumped the likes of England, and that connection between the midfield three that can open up a defense like a knife through butter.

    The Dutch are still arguably the best Europe has to offer, despite France and England being tipped to fair better than them at this tournament. But they need to go back to what they do best: playing without restrictions, and frightening the life out of the opposition with their combination of speed, technique and ruthlessness in front of goal.
     
  18. Funny. The Orange Lionesses are more popular among men than women.
    https://www.sportenstrategie.nl/spo...-ledenaantallen-tot-het-lieke-martens-effect/
    Hoe is het EK voetbal in Nederland beleefd?

    Zes op de tien volwassen Nederlanders, 8 miljoen personen, hebben het EK vrouwenvoetbal twee jaar geleden gevolgd. Ongeveer drie kwart volgde alleen de wedstrijden van Nederland. Deze belangstelling overtrof de verwachtingen: twee maanden vóór het EK waren nog vier op de tien Nederlanders van plan het toernooi te volgen. Het evenement trok meer bekijks onder mannen (68%) dan onder vrouwen (53%). Eerder onderzoek liet al zien dat meer mannen dan vrouwen interesse hebben in vrouwenvoetbal
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    google translate:
    How is the European football experience in the Netherlands?

    Six in ten adult Dutch people, 8 million people, have followed the European women's football championship two years ago. About three quarters followed only the games of the Netherlands. This interest exceeded expectations: two months before the European Championship, four in ten Dutch people were planning to follow the tournament. The event attracted more attention among men (68%) than among women (53%). Previous research has already shown that more men than women are interested in women's football.
     
  19. White/Blue_since1860

    Orange14 is gay
    Jan 4, 2007
    Bum zua City
    Club:
    TSV 1860 München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
  20. Orange14

    Orange14 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 27, 2007
    Bethesda, MD
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Dutch U-19 ladies take on France today in the UEFA championships. they easily won their opening match against Norway.
     

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