The Doping Thread

Discussion in 'Cycling' started by Dead Fingers, Apr 9, 2009.

  1. Moishe

    Moishe Moderator
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    Boca Juniors
    Argentina
    Mar 6, 2005
    Here there and everywhere.
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Great now I'm having Quadrophonea flashbacks. I also by default of being from Argentina get accused of being an Italophile all the time. I'm Gallego through and through!!!
     
  2. Dead Fingers

    Dead Fingers Moderator
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    Jan 22, 2004
    St. Paul, Minnesota
    Club:
    Minnesota United FC
    A month in a man's life is not complete without at least one Quadrophenia flashback. :p
     
  3. panicfc

    panicfc Member+

    Dec 22, 2000
    In my chair, typing
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wiggo's got a wicked collection of guitars, shares a connection with my English musical tastes. He's alright in my book ;)
     
  4. Moishe

    Moishe Moderator
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    Boca Juniors
    Argentina
    Mar 6, 2005
    Here there and everywhere.
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    I own the movie but haven't watched it in a while. The soundtrack on the other hand plays very regularly. "Can you see the real me" and "515" are two of my favorite songs ever.
     
  5. cjump

    cjump Member

    Jul 31, 2006
    North Carolina
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  6. Twenty26Six

    Twenty26Six Feeling Sheepish...

    Jan 2, 2004
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  7. Moishe

    Moishe Moderator
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    Boca Juniors
    Argentina
    Mar 6, 2005
    Here there and everywhere.
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    That would make a great tattoo.
     
  8. Moishe

    Moishe Moderator
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    Boca Juniors
    Argentina
    Mar 6, 2005
    Here there and everywhere.
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
  9. KyleP

    KyleP Member

    Jan 24, 2009
    Club:
    AC Milan
  10. Moishe

    Moishe Moderator
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    Boca Juniors
    Argentina
    Mar 6, 2005
    Here there and everywhere.
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
  11. cjump

    cjump Member

    Jul 31, 2006
    North Carolina
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    i still think AC has been or is dirty. just a gut feeling.
     
  12. Moishe

    Moishe Moderator
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    Boca Juniors
    Argentina
    Mar 6, 2005
    Here there and everywhere.
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Sorry but while I hold out faith that the majority of riders are clean, somehow that faith will get me heart broken in the end. Where there is smoke fire is usually close by.
     
  13. cjump

    cjump Member

    Jul 31, 2006
    North Carolina
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    well his name came up in Operación Puerto when he rode for Liberty Seguros(2004-2006). he just seems cocky enough to think he can't get caught.
     
  14. Moishe

    Moishe Moderator
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    Boca Juniors
    Argentina
    Mar 6, 2005
    Here there and everywhere.
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    I'll give Bert the benefit of the doubt even with the connection to Puerto. As far as cockiness to believe he can't get caught, that applies to pretty much every bonehead that's been caught.
     
  15. aveslacker

    aveslacker Member+

    Ajax
    United States
    Apr 2, 2006
    Old Madras
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Apparently there were blood bags with AC written on them, but there were a couple of other riders that tested positive that had the initials AC (although I can't remember who they were). Nonetheless, it's hard to say that anyone is above suspicion these days.

    In other news, Wiggins has just released all of his results (iirc going back until he was 19). I suppose he might be clean.
     
  16. cjump

    cjump Member

    Jul 31, 2006
    North Carolina
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    AC always denies but never does anything to prove it. all he needed to do to completely clear his name from puerto was a DNA sample. that would have ended the story but he didn't. then when lemond accused him of the stage 15 results, he said that he was not guilty of those charges because he hadn't failed a test but wouldn't go as far as staying he was 100% clean. the dude just skirts the questions and doesn't answer completely. to me, thats smoke and fire. if you got nothing to hide, why not?
     
  17. cjump

    cjump Member

    Jul 31, 2006
    North Carolina
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    but wait there's more! [/billymaysvoice]
    http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/afld-begins-re-testing-of-2008-tour-doping-controls
     
  18. Moishe

    Moishe Moderator
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    Boca Juniors
    Argentina
    Mar 6, 2005
    Here there and everywhere.
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
  19. cleansheetbsc

    cleansheetbsc Member+

    Mar 17, 2004
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  20. Dead Fingers

    Dead Fingers Moderator
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    Jan 22, 2004
    St. Paul, Minnesota
    Club:
    Minnesota United FC
  21. Dead Fingers

    Dead Fingers Moderator
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    Jan 22, 2004
    St. Paul, Minnesota
    Club:
    Minnesota United FC
  22. cjump

    cjump Member

    Jul 31, 2006
    North Carolina
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    i really hate dopers in the sport but this Operacion Puerto is getting out of hand. it's been like 4 years right? lets move on. there should be some sort of statue of limitations for the riders. i hate hate hate hate the dopers but my god.
     
  23. Dead Fingers

    Dead Fingers Moderator
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    Jan 22, 2004
    St. Paul, Minnesota
    Club:
    Minnesota United FC
  24. Moishe

    Moishe Moderator
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    Boca Juniors
    Argentina
    Mar 6, 2005
    Here there and everywhere.
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    This is one incident that TRS I'm sure would have hoped never happened as it now leaves the door open for all forms of criticisms towards the team and on Mr. Armstrong in particular.
     
  25. Dead Fingers

    Dead Fingers Moderator
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    Jan 22, 2004
    St. Paul, Minnesota
    Club:
    Minnesota United FC
    To tell you the truth, I am not sure it is anything new for them. People who don't care for LA and JB have been making remarks for a long time and will continue to do so.

    They are doing the right thing, as did Garmin with Zirbel, or BMC with a couple of their riders...they are reacting quicker and taking them out of the active squad as secondary tests/investigations are being run.
     

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