The Doom Thread: Gloom, Despair, Agony

Discussion in 'Politics & Current Events' started by Knave, Oct 25, 2024.

  1. Jazzy Altidore

    Jazzy Altidore Member+

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    I won’t be making any changes. Standard ETFs for SP 500 and Nasdaq.
     
  2. Jazzy Altidore

    Jazzy Altidore Member+

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    Why don’t you direct me to the right thread so we can discuss there friend!!?!
     
  3. roadkit

    roadkit Greetings from the Fringe of Obscurity

    Jul 2, 2003
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    I can believe my own predictions without an obligation to tell you or any other MAGA Chode what I may or may not do to prepare.

    What I can tell you is I only hope that whatever may come, the negative consequences fall disproportionately on those who have willingingly pickled themselves in right-wing disinformation.
     
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  4. usscouse

    usscouse BigSoccer Supporter

    May 3, 2002
    Orygun coast
    Yeah, no problem. I posted this by mistake
    In the Cartoon thread. Borrowed the vid from Irish Rover.

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    That picture will go along with this. Led by Stephen (Grosser) Miller. Or imagine Drumpf’s Proud Boys issued with Brown Shirts.
    Backed up by the new Department of Justice. The. Volksgericht under Mike Davis.
    People's Court (Volksgericht): Nazi court with jurisdiction over treason and other politically motivated crimes. It dealt summary justice without right of appeal to all those accused of crimes against the Führer, Adolf Hitler, and against the government of the Third Reich.

    I can’t stop laughing!!! Sob!
     
  5. celito

    celito Moderator
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    Soon enough. When it happens. Please make sure to check back in.
     
  6. YankHibee

    YankHibee Member+

    Mar 28, 2005
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    Biden should have never planned on a 2nd term from the moment he was elected...which, iirc, was the plan. He certainly did Kamala no favors through the four years by making her visible or relevant, and the lack of a legitimate primary had a hand in chilling interest. Joe's legacy is Trump's 2nd term.
     
  7. ElNaranja

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    Jul 16, 2017
    Wrong thread but what the hell? Do norms matter?

    Opening Arguments latest episode they start discussing things Biden could do to slow the new admin down and protect people.

    Probably won't do it because he is an institutionalist and Garland a moron but...some interesting ideas. More coming soon they promise.
     
  8. Knave

    Knave Member+

    May 25, 1999
    I know this will make all the NPR listeners spit out their decaf, but NOPE!
     
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  9. ElNaranja

    ElNaranja Member+

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    Jul 16, 2017
    Hail Grimes!
     
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  10. ElNaranja

    ElNaranja Member+

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    Jul 16, 2017
    Just realized I should tldr part of the episode, but they mention he could fire all immigration judges and attorneys, empty ICE, make public Smith's reports down to the last period. Ram through a new SC judge.

    It won't stop anything, but it'll slow down the fascism.
     
  11. usscouse

    usscouse BigSoccer Supporter

    May 3, 2002
    Orygun coast
    Perhaps I’ve come to the wrong thread with this. It’s some regular Texan talking about his post election feeling.
    But trust me it’s well worth a couple of minutes of your time.

    1854965444878516522 is not a valid tweet id
     
  12. Knave

    Knave Member+

    May 25, 1999
    We shouldn't do anything to shield America from the consequences of its own stupidity.

    Let it all burn.
     
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  13. Sounders78

    Sounders78 Member+

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    Very well said - a bit long, but worth watching. He sums it up well.

    Thanks for posting.
     
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  14. NGV

    NGV Member+

    Sep 14, 1999
    Predicting the policy outcomes of a second Trump term is a bit futile, because no one knows what the policies will be. The next few years will be characterized by different factions of extremists, plutocrats, grifters, and weirdos competing for influence within the President's defective brain, and there's no way to know in advance how that struggle will turn out.

    We can predict with confidence that Trump 2.0 wil be a corrupt and authoritarian freak show and an embarassing disgrace. That much is a given; everything else is up in the air.
     
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  15. Knave

    Knave Member+

    May 25, 1999
    Well, it's another day and everything is still shit. :coffee:
     
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  16. The Jitty Slitter

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    Jul 23, 2004
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    A troubling thing that keeps happening (not just in the US) is voters, even in red states, prefer Dem policies on key issues like healthcare, abortion etc, but keep voting for the people who want to take away their rights. While this can be understood as a messaging issue, IMO the problem is more that liberals and progressives now lack channels to talk to voters who decide elections.

    Pfeiffer has been writing about this since forever ...


    2. Understand Why We Keep Losing on the Economy
    Post-COVID inflation is the biggest factor in this election. It’s why incumbent parties all over the world have been getting slaughtered in election after election. It’s almost impossible to win an election when, according to the exit polls, 68% of voters rate the economy negatively, 75% say inflation caused them harm, and only 24% of voters say their financial situation is better off than four years ago. But if Democrats just blame inflation for voter distrust on the economy, we will be whistling past the graveyard. Democrats have lost economically-focused voters in every election since 2012. Even in the 2018 and 2022 midterms, which saw huge Democratic gains, we lost the voters who said the economy was their top issue by an average of 36 points!

    President Biden passed a bunch of very consequential and popular policies. Yet, his ratings on the economy worsened over time. While I think we should revisit our policy agenda to look for new, bolder ideas that better speak to people’s concerns, this is largely not a policy problem. It’s a brand problem. When you do a blind taste test, our policies are more popular. This is why ballot initiatives like raising the minimum wage and allowing collective bargaining often pass in very Red states where Democrats have no chance of winning elected office.

    President Biden passed a bunch of very consequential and popular policies. Yet, his ratings on the economy worsened over time. While I think we should revisit our policy agenda to look for new, bolder ideas that better speak to people’s concerns, this is largely not a policy problem. It’s a brand problem. When you do a blind taste test, our policies are more popular. This is why ballot initiatives like raising the minimum wage and allowing collective bargaining often pass in very Red states where Democrats have no chance of winning elected office.

    On economic issues, Democrats have a cultural problem; regardless of our policies, voters in the toughest economic situations simply don’t think Democrats care about them, and they haven’t since Barack Obama left office. Republicans have done an excellent job — with some inadvertent help from Democrats — branding our party as the party of elites even though the GOP standard bearer is a wannabe billionaire who offers tax cuts to other billionaires in exchange for campaign contributions. There is little question that we would benefit from more full-throated populism.

    On economic issues, Democrats have a cultural problem; regardless of our policies, voters in the toughest economic situations simply don’t think Democrats care about them, and they haven’t since Barack Obama left office. Republicans have done an excellent job — with some inadvertent help from Democrats — branding our party as the party of elites even though the GOP standard bearer is a wannabe billionaire who offers tax cuts to other billionaires in exchange for campaign contributions. There is little question that we would benefit from more full-throated populism.

    3. Close the Communications Chasm
    Democrats are losing the information war. Trump and the Republicans are relentlessly communicating their narrative to a wide swath of the electorate, while Democrats are mostly still playing by an old set of rules. The Right is dominating the information space. In the battleground states where Democrats could spend more than a billion dollars communicating to voters on TV and digital platforms, Trump gained three points over his 2020 performance. In the rest of the country, which saw no paid Democratic messaging, Trump gained six points. This means that Democrats got absolutely battered in earned and social media. An average American who just turned on their TV or unlocked their phone or tablet was getting much more pro-Trump and anti-Democratic messaging.

    This situation is not unique to the Harris campaign. It’s been a problem for Democrats for more than a decade. Democrats cannot reach the wide swath of voters who don’t actively consume political news.


    https://www.messageboxnews.com/p/how-dems-can-start-staging-a-comeback
     
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  17. ElNaranja

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    I broadly agree with all that, with the caveat that Democratic economic policies are akin to a bandaid instead of the surgery that's truly needed. Nibbling around the edges will continue to cede ground to the billionaires and bourgeoisie.

    Take some pages from Bernie and rail against the corporations that have seized control of the economy and government and have been stripping rights from the working class and taking money out of their pockets and putting more of the tax burden on them. They've socialized all the problems and stolen the wealth.

    Push on that and start passing laws to strike back and you'll make progress with those folks.
     
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  18. Pittsburgh Ref

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    Additionally I think Dems' messaging needs to be more on the offensive against the patent b.s. coming from the other side. Was true before Trump and way more so now.

    Hammer home the fact that the other side is wrong about their descriptions and prescriptions. Point out that tax cuts for fat cats are on offer, not anything that will help us folks. Make the case, without condescension, that the way forward must be together, not a performative role-play of fantasy individualism.
     
  19. Knave

    Knave Member+

    May 25, 1999
    Just in case anyone was wondering, everything is still terrible.
     
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  20. Sounders78

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    But on the bright side, it's worse than it was last month! :cautious:
     
  21. Sounders78

    Sounders78 Member+

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    #296 Sounders78, Nov 12, 2024
    Last edited: Nov 12, 2024
    This conversation between The Bulwark and Pod Save America hosts seems most fitting here. I liked the Tim Miller line "being on the caring side is hard" and Jon Lovett's "the worst people are happy and the best people are sad". What struck me is it is a conversation between two gay guys who are feeling the doom quite significantly.

     
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  22. Knave

    Knave Member+

    May 25, 1999
    In this crazy, mixed up world, we're truly lucky to have something reliable that we can count on!
     
  23. roadkit

    roadkit Greetings from the Fringe of Obscurity

    Jul 2, 2003
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    Enjoy it while it lasts. It's going to be much, much worse in about 70-ish days.
     
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  24. Knave

    Knave Member+

    May 25, 1999
    Way ahead of you. :thumbsup:
     
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  25. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

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    Optimism, Knave style.
     
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