The Distract me from 2020s P&CE Thread Part Deux

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  1. Sounders78

    Sounders78 Member+

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    @Cascarino's Pizzeria - I recognize you would almost certainly have no prior knowledge about this, but just as an FYI, it is considered improper (sometimes illegal) to display indigenous remains without the consent of the indigenous peoples concerned. In Nevada, for one, it is illegal to display American Indian skeletal remains, even in photographs. As such, it is something that we anthropologists discourage doing.
     
  2. YankHibee

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    My recollection is that it means "ancient enemy" or "enemies of our ancestors." Other's disputed the translation/etymology. I spent just a summer doing digs and giving tours of petroglyphs in 98, and the issue came up sometimes. There were a few layers to it - some wanted to call them various other things, but Anasazi was still the most used by everyone. On our sites, we generally referred to the period of the dig and the culture rather than a tribe.

    IIRC, this was another of those layers - is there a difference whether the remains are associated with a surviving tribe? Or, maybe, was there a difference?
     
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  3. Sounders78

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    "Anasazi" is basically a negative term, as it is what their enemies called them. The term used in my field for that group, at least in older times, is ancestral Pueblo.


    If there is cultural affiliation, it's definitely off-limits. Given that skull was from a known existing tribe, that makes it off-limits.
     
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  4. roadkit

    roadkit Greetings from the Fringe of Obscurity

    Jul 2, 2003
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    If you are into the Grand Canyon, backpacking, or both, I highly recommend the book "A Walk in the Park."
     
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  5. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    I do not. Was amazed at the arrowhead in the skull mostly.
     
  6. yossarian

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    Yes, and you're probably the third person who has recommended it to me, though I have yet to read it.
     
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  7. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
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    #9057 Cascarino's Pizzeria, Nov 14, 2024
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    Video of Maori legislators doing the Haka to protest legislation that they feel will chip away at indigenous rights

     
  8. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    More on what's going in in NZ

    Act leader Seymour - who is also New Zealand's associate justice minister - argues that because the principles have never been properly defined legally, the courts "have been able to develop principles that have been used to justify actions that are contrary to the principle of equal rights".

    He says these include "ethnic quotas in public institutions" that go against the spirit of fairness for all New Zealanders.

    Prime Minister Christopher Luxon, however, has called the bill "divisive" - despite being part of the same coalition.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/articles/cvgwve4j176o.amp
     
  9. chaski

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    For the Grand Canyon, I recommend “Over the Edge: Death in Grand Canyon” — accounts of all known fatal mishaps.
     
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  10. Sounders78

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    According to the NZ radio station I listen to, she was suspended from Parliament for 24 hours.

    Christopher Luxon, the former CEO of Air New Zealand and now PM, has been rolling back a lot of pro-Māori / Pasifika policies that were instituted under the Labour government (Jacinda Ardern's party). There is a lot of dismay among liberals and Māori / Pasifika about it all, needless to say.
     
  11. Dr. Wankler

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  12. Dr. Wankler

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    Fettermen could probably lead a pretty good Haka in the Senate.
     
  13. roadkit

    roadkit Greetings from the Fringe of Obscurity

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    Seems appropriate for current events, LOL.

    The Man Who Walked Through Time is also very good.
     
  14. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    Not sure what Haka'ing for a client state that we already support 100% will do. And he'd probably pass out after 10 seconds.
     
  15. yossarian

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    So I've done the trip (upper canyon) from Lee's Ferry to Phantom Ranch and then hike out the 9 miles up the Bright Angel Trail twice. The first time was 2000, so no cell phones---or at least no smart phones to speak of. The most recent time was 2022. Hiking out in 22, my 13 year-old and I saw more than a handful of people---once we got close to the end when you start to encounter "tourists"---taking selfies in some really stupid/precarious areas. Even my 13 year-old was shaking his head and muttering "idiots!"
     
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  16. roby

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  17. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
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    (From Facebook)

    "A "Hobo Nickel" is the name given to American nickel coins that were hand-engraved by homeless people (hobos) during the Great Depression. Hobos used these engravings to increase the value of an ordinary nickel, creating small works of art that they could exchange for food, rides, or other services.

    These engravings were often very detailed and creative, and the motifs varied. A common motif, as can be seen in the picture, was a skull. Today, Hobo Nickels are valuable collector's items, and some examples have sold at auction for thousands of dollars.

    The picture shows such a nickel redesigned with a skeleton motif. This is a part of the story that reflects creativity and survival during the difficult time of the Great Depression in the United States"

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  18. roby

    roby Member+

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    I'm sure you had a diabolical reason for choosing the "1937" nickel! :mad:
     
  19. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
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    A nickel could buy like a house back then, right?
     
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  20. roadkit

    roadkit Greetings from the Fringe of Obscurity

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    Not long ago it could by a hotel in Slovakia!
     
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  21. Cascarino's Pizzeria

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  22. Dr. Wankler

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    Three rivers that I’ve walked over on bridges. Allegheny in Pittsburgh, Genesee in Rochester, and the Susquehanna in Cooperstown and Wilkes-Barre. Had no idea there was serious geological implications.
     
  23. Cascarino's Pizzeria

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  24. roby

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    Single dip cones, most candy bars and bag of tater chips were a nickel when I was a lad. What happened?? :(
     

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