"The Devil cannot do without his quality": Christian Pulisic at AC Milan

Not a bad shout, if he can shore up the defense. The football will be ugly as hell, but who cares as long as they finally qualify for a WC again.

 

Italy needs to do what Germany, France and England did and have a whole system reboot.

 

I think Italy is ahead of England.

Egland, hasn't won anything since 1966 and Italy beat them in 2021.

I think the FIGC just needs some correct direction once again.

 

That is uhh.. delusional Italian thinking, right? England played in final of Euro 2020/21 and Euro 2024, reached the semi-final of the World Cup in 2018, and also lost in the Quarter Final in 2022 finalists France.

The last time they failed to qualify for a major tournament was for Euro 2008 and before that the World Cup in 1994.

Yes, Italy narrowly beat them in the 2020 final, but has been abject aside from that over the same time period.

 

yep

 

That's nothing compared to the USA

We finished 3rd in the 1930 WC

We almost went to the FINAL in the 2002 WC, but we lost in the Quarter finals.

 

A travesty that Italy have failed 3 straight times. Mind-boggling.
It's not the early 2000s anymore but they have more than enough to Qualify at the very least but bastoni a retard

 

Yes this is true but Italy still won that game and England didn't.

Also, by comparison, looking at their competitive record in the last 58 years, Italy still wins out.

Euro 1968 Champions

WC 1970 Runners-up

WC 1978 Fourth place

Euro 1980 Fourth place

WC 1982 Champions

Olympics 1984 4th place

Olympics 1988 4th place

Euro 1988 Third place

WC 1990 Third place

WC 1994 Runners-up

Euro 2000 Runners-up

WC 2006 Champions

Euro 2012 Runners-up

Euro 2021 Champions

On average, that is a positive result every 4 years.

It is true, Italy are going through a rough patch in these last three WCQ cycles but there aren't very many nations on earth who can claim their 58 year record.

If and when the FIGC gets their act together, they will will be back, its just a matter of time.

"Italians lose wars as if they were football matches, and football matches as if they were wars."
-Winston Churchill

 

Gotta figure recently is the important concept in this regard.

 

That's true but if you look at the last three cycles that Italy have missed out on it's pretty bleak. They should be able to at least qualify every for every WC. They need someone to wake them up and fix some things.

 

It is because they have no Italian players playing.

Como has none and they are in fifth place and the same with Juve, Inter and Milan.

Juve especially always formed the nucleus of the national team now they have few Italian payers.

You won’t have much of a national team when your top teams have no players.

 

I remember when Germany sort of had this problem and they totally revamped there youth ranks with new rules / demands and then they blasted through that WC in Brazil. Then France revamped their youth, then England and the architect of England's revamp hopefully jump started ours. I've never heard anything about Italy revamping their youth but if teams don't want Italian players then the Italians need to improve their youth so teams do want them.

 

That is supposedly what the FIGC new president is trying to do with their youth teams but I don't know how many years it will take.

The bottom line is, as long as top teams continue to employ and sign foreign players and if there are no good Italians playing on top teams in the Serie A, you can't form a national team of 23 players.

The way I see it is, Italy needs to give more caps to their Oriundi, foreigners or put some type of ban on players from abroad.

There aren't many other alternatives but if they don't the national team will continue to suffer.

 

I blame Rossi.

 

England and Germany sure.

I do not include the French nt.

 

Giuseppe? Dummy should of stayed with team usa. He was lightyears better than the jozys/ Brian chings of the world.

 

It won't happen overnight but doing nothing is worse. Forcing mediocre players onto teams isn't the answer. Making your countries players so good teams want them is the answer. If Serie A had some type of spending cap you could incentivize it but again having great young local talent is the solution. The question is how to achieve that.

 

Unless there a set of rules put in place to ban foreign players, I also foresee that it could take some time.

A problem no one talks about is , in Italy but also in other top leagues is the top teams are vying for a place in the Champions League each year.

That translates into millions for the club in sponsorship and TV money for the club.

If the top 4 teams are trying to make the Champions League while the other two are fighting for an Europa or even Conference League berth, club presidents don't have time to worry about and develop youngsters and they only care about and need to field a team full of competitive players to help them win now.

Fans also don't care who is playing as long as their team is winning.

My cousins in Italy lose sleep when their clubs (Roma, Lazio , Juve, Inter and Milan) lose but can care less about the national team until it comes time for a tournament.

Then they care for about 2 weeks but go right back to caring about their clubs.

 

If I wasn't a Juventino, I would encourage the limits on foreigners because that would be the death blow to the league. The EU labor laws probably wouldn't allow it anyways but that would really be the nail in the coffin. FIGC needs to look at modernizing talent acquisition and development, not limiting the pool of available assets.

Don't take my word for it, maybe Nemanja Matic is more qualified. “It’s stuck in the 1990s. The first issue concerns the youth academies. I’ve seen it with my son: youth programs in England and France are far ahead. They teach you how to dribble, develop your technique, and encourage you to have fun while finding the right solutions."

Agreed with this statement and how that affects managers with bringing in younger players but as you mentioned, this is the same with the other clubs and leagues in Europe. Again, limiting the amount of foreigners starting won't help that continentally. Inter shouldn't be giving any minutes to Acerbi, it should be a younger player (preferably Italian but not restricted) and that can be said of numerous other cases in the league.

Finally, academies are not the reason Italy failed to beat Sweden (2018), North Macedonia (2022), and Bosnia & Herzogovenia (2026). Those teams were easily good enough to beat those teams. Remember when Ventura was going to put on old DDR when searching for a goal against Sweden when a young Berna and Insigne was warming up as well?

 

This is accurate!

 

Napoli open the door for AC by falling to Lazio. AC and Juve still yet to play. AC 3 behind Napoli but better GD. Juve 3 behind AC with better GD.

Milan - Verona and Juve - Bologna tomorrow before they go head to head the following week.

Hopefully AC can things back on track.

 

FYP. "Lost" is a bit strong for my taste.

 

Open door for what? Silver medal? I suppose

A win tomorrow with como losing sort of guarantees cl

 

And few million bucks. It's not the scudetto, but there's few teams out there would choose 3rd over 2nd without a draft-pick on the line.

 

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