The Democratic party must CHANGE, Moore-types must be abandoned. I'm sure that most of the points have already been made somewhere in other threads. BUT. Have to get this off my chest. The Democratic party is FINISHED in this country, done in by the "Bush is a nazi" and "Gay marriage now" and "Not Under G-d" types. Until the Democrats can divorce themselves from the liberal left that had dominated the "debate" in this election cycle, they will continue to lose. America is a conservative country, and that's the bottom line. People's conservative values cannot be changed by political ads or campaign speeches. And there are too many conservative people in this country for a liberal party to have any chance. That's the simple equation, geography and polling leave no doubt about that. In the post-Clinton times, when a threat to traditional values is obvious, conservatives will continue to win. After 4 years of "the most incompetent administration in recent history" (John Kerry (c)), Bush has picked up 3.5 million new votes! It I'm sure looks crazy to European liberals, and it looks crazy to MoveOn.org and the Deaniacs. But until the Democratic party will continue to receive endorsements from these people, it will not win another election. Much like the Republican party had to divorce itself from the David Dukes and KKKs to survive, so a Democratic party has to divorce itself from the pinko-liberals. When Michael Moore accuses Bush of treason and the Democratic party nods in agreement, you know the party have lost touch with the country. The Democrats must ABANDON the liberal left, or it will remain a regional party and we will have Republican presidents for years to come. The Euro-style liberals must leave, go join the Greens, for example. There's a party that shares their values, why do they not support them?! No, they come and join the Democratic bandwagon, seize the wheel, and crash the whole thing into a tree.