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There's truth to both of these posts.

U2 was once great but later became terrible.

 

Fair, except I’d replace “terrible” with “unmemorably mediocre.”

 

Unmemorably mediocre is terrible with a candy coating.

 

I'd say the same though I had checked out by the time Aching Baby had come out.

 

U2 of the 80s had a run most would kill for.

anyway, their biggest curse was enduring too long but their 80s run was incredible.

 

1. The Joshua Tree minus Still Haven’t Found… plus either Silver and Gold or Spanish Eyes is as good as any album ever
2. Achtung Baby
3. War

Then there are about 4 albums that are fine but nothing special then the rest are dripping with competence (that’s not exactly a compliment coming from me)

 

Isn't that pretty much standard for modern bands. Even the most successful bands only have a small handful of albums (maybe even 1 or 2) that are good/great, then a handful of albums will be mediocre with a couple of good songs, and then the rest of their career either doesn't have new releases, or the albums are just bad and they make their money touring off the first few albums.

 

The Joshua Tree and Achtung Baby are top for albums. You can debate one and two. I'd put The Joshua Tree on top, however.

They have other great songs. And other good albums. But nothing else is as complete as those two albums.

 

I once saw a quote from either Bono or the Edge that they weren’t sure about being professional musicians until The Unforgettable Fire, that before then they weren’t that serious.

I can see that WRT War. Great collection of songs but they feel unfinished, for want of a better word. But for me the songs are so great it’s still a great album.

You can really hear it with Boy and October.

 

Achtung Baby doesn’t have any song as weak as Still Haven’t Found. With iTunes, I just delete that song and Joshua Tree is a great listening experience, better than Achtung.

 

Here’s the pattern I see a lot…the first album is almost always better than the second. The third album tells you if the band has staying power. The fifth tells you how much.

 

I'm sorry, but you are so, so dead wrong about I Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For. It's easily one of U2's best.

 

1. Music is subjective.
2. That song is boring

 

I learnt that lesson with Frankie Goes To Holllywood and Oasis. I thought both were destined for long-lasting stardom only for both to disintegrate quickly after one and two albums respectively.

 

Is that English?

 

https://www.dictionary.com/browse/cromulent

 

To be fair. Oasis didn't disappear because they weren't still good. They imploded because Noah and Liam couldn't even be in the same room any more.

I think that is a lot better than a band that rises to stardom in their first album, has a successful second album, and then never tastes success again.

 

Is that the band or the pattern of boredom of the music audience since the 1970's?

 

It’s a hymn!