The Democratic Party in Trump's Fascist 2nd Term. Commentary, Ideas & Strategy (+ non Woketicism)

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  1. bigredfutbol

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    Man I didn’t think I could think any less of Jeffries but here we are.
     
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  2. Sufjan Guzan

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    #1902 Sufjan Guzan, Dec 4, 2025
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    I'm choosing to believe this meme was started by someone who knows it takes 67 Senate votes to override a Presidential Veto.
     
  3. superdave

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    Jeffries making a late bid to be more feckless than Schumer

    We’ve gotta get rid of these New Yorkers…something about the Democratic Party in NY (these guys, Hochul, Cuomo) that makes them quick to collaborate with Republicans.
     
  4. Q*bert Jones III

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    One party states make lazy politicians.
     
  5. Smurfquake

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    <points at Gavin Newsom>

    Definitely true for Gray Davis though.
     
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  6. soccernutter

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    Looks like this wasn't answered. If it was, sorry.

    It can't work, not consistently, as some terms will fall out of favor or usage and others will rise in their place. And words also change meaning over time, so what is attempted to be clearly written, say 50 years ago, might be vague today. Or in some cases, not even applicable. Yes, laws to get created or amended to fix this issue, but that is usually a reaction to what has occurred and not what will occur.
    There are also cases of accepted definitions and understood definitions. As an example (not legal), when I was growing up, and also as I became a teacher, the phrase "That's gay" would be used. The intent was "That's stupid" or very similar. It wasn't until later I understood how harmful that was, and I would correct my students when I heard that. Neither me nor my students were being intentionally harmful, yet we were being harmful.

    And beyond all that, when something is written to be unequivocal, it will inherently leave out people or groups or concepts who might otherwise be included.
     
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  7. russ

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    They're as terrified of the socialist NYC wing (LaGuardia/Mamdani) as the Reeps.Mark my words if Hochul gets primaried say hi to Gov.Stefanik.
     
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  8. charlie15

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    What an absolute pile of garbage...... Jeffries is truly embarrassing.
     
  9. Knave

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    It's not exactly "lazy," at least not in California. It's more that they don't get the reps they need to face up against genuine GOPers. And they don't get the reps they need in appealing to voters beyond their natural constituency. These are partisan political muscles that politicians only acquire with practice. That practice comes through engagement with legitimate GOP opponents and truly contested elections. There aren't many of those in California (except in the primaries). So those partisan political muscles never get developed. This is all more of less true of every California Dem. The interesting thing about Newsom is that he's actually done (and is still doing) a little work to exercise the partisan political muscles that you need on the national stage, but that really aren't developed by California politics. The best example of this is the debate Newsom had with Ron DeSantis. That debate happened for no reason whatsoever, except that Newsom needed a sparring partner.
     
  10. soccernutter

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    The accepting a person to use their own desired pronoun is the acceptance of trans rights. Denying them the right to use their pronoun is denying them their right to be, openly. And we know that there is a segment of the population that wants to deny trans people from being, openly or not.
     
  11. russ

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    Its like you haven't been paying attention.We support weirdo's rights right up until the point we have to give up our right to free speech!It really never ends with you people!
    -Mindy and Clay Browning,Lead Couples Team,Society of Centrist Independents,Millbrook,NY
     
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  12. chaski

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    Chuck Schumer’s friends the Baileys agree.
     
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  13. Auriaprottu

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    Racism has a power component that Black people lack.
     
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  14. Naughtius Maximus

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    The only time that was an issue for me was when Lewis Hamilton was being interviewed by some dozy yank woman and she asked him how did he feel about being the first 'African American' to win the F1 world championship and he said, 'I'm not ANY sort of American' :D

    It was pretty funny though :)
     
  15. Dr. Wankler

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    During the 94 World Cup, a commentator referred to an “African American” playing for Sweden.

    Alas, Martin Dahlin was not then, nor has he ever been, American. Too bad, because he scored more goals that tournament than the US did.
     
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  16. Naughtius Maximus

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    The relative power component is the biggest single factor in all comparisons but, having said that, I don't think it's a particularly good idea to differentiate between people based on something as ultimately inconsequential as the colour of their skin because it's a bit... well, daft. It makes us sound as witless as the right although I get that CP's going for that whole 'humorous meme' vibe, (albeit with varying levels of success ;)) :)
     
  17. Naughtius Maximus

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    I mean, I understand why it happens, but it does rather suggest that everything is related back to 'America first' and that other countries and their peoples have only a 'walk on part' in any discussion.

    Regardling Dahlin... I always disliked that bloody bloke as he gave the assist to Tomas Brolin for Sweden's second, winning goal when they eliminated us from the '92 euros...



    Mind you, I hated Brolin even more :D
     
  18. Val

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    I loved that 94 Swedish team. Dahlin, Brolin, Kennett Andersen, and a young Henrik Larson. Truly an ungodly amount of firepower. And yet they laid down and died vs Brazil. They'd lost that game before it even started. And then came out pissed for the 3rd place game. One of the reasons I love third place games.
     
  19. superdave

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    I remember the anecdote about a business article writing about a company that had turned itself around and gone from being in the red to being in the African-American.

    And that was before AI!
     
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  20. Knave

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    I kind of missed this but I read a reference about it earlier today. Apparently, Newsom's Proposition 50 fundraising surplus is substantial. In the multi-millions of dollars. There are restrictions on how that surplus can be used, but I believe it can be transferred in whole or in part to other campaign committees -- say, 2026 midterm congressional campaign committees. If you wanted to run for president, and you were sitting on that kind of political money, that's exactly what you would do: become a benefactor and king-maker for all sorts of congressional candidates across the country. The money gives the congressional candidates the resources to organize and create a political infrastructure. Those congressional candidates then come around, endorse you, and put their organization to work for you.
     
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  21. Cascarino's Pizzeria

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  22. Capt.Tsubasa

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    Regarding "They/Them" : To me it just comes across as schizophrenic when someone refers to oneselves as "themselves", as if they have multiple personalities. Why not "it"?
     
  23. The Jitty Slitter

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    #1923 The Jitty Slitter, Dec 9, 2025
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    Longwell's latest podcast had an excellent section on whether voters these days are really motivated by moderate/centrist/progressive type policy decisions - the conclusion was that voters seem to want aggression more than they want specific policies.

    Of course how you display this aggression fight depends both on national and local factors.

    Nevertheless interesting.
     
  24. Sounders78

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    Because "it" is used for either inanimate objects or non-humans. It would only dehumanize them even further than society already does.
     
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  25. rslfanboy

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    Jul 24, 2007
    Section 26
    Already covered.

    “It” refers to non-persons or non-humans.
     

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