The Democratic Party in Trump's Fascist 2nd Term. Commentary, Ideas & Strategy (+ non Woketicism)

I think the claims of the argument put concisely were:

• The most successful version of Capitalism (Keynesian Economics) involved incorporation of Socialist principles (New Deal style Welfare State)
• Despite advancements in technology and culture Capitalism has a clear cycle that results in a lot of death and destruction every 80 years or so, dating back to its original incorporation, suggesting inherent contradictions.
• Capitalism's principles lead to elevating people into positions of power that are inherently anti-social psychopaths that do not act in the welfare of society. The Epstein Files are a particular good example of this.
• Capitalism involves the exportation of violence externally through Colonialism/Imperialism that results in objectively more death and destruction on a global scale that hasn't been matched by any Socialist project.

 

How dare you suggest that not dying from being unable to afford health care is more important than the filibuster. I mean c'mon...won't someone please think of our institutions!?!?!

 

The perfect Democrats according to some polling.

A Veteran, middle class or working class

Believes in science and wants to find common ground.

Focus on protecting social security and Medicare while bringing down prices.

If you stitched together the top-testing bio, record, and issue priorities across each audience, you’d get something like this (Combined Preference Effect: +35 points): pic.twitter.com/WMutBSoKdU

— Blueprint (@BlueprintPolls) November 14, 2025

Socialist and Billionaire are the worst polling identity.

 

"Culturally Boring in a reassuring way: moderate (+4), under 50 but not aggressively online, speaks plainly (a podcaster has a -9 preference effect)"


"Deeply suspicious of culture-war detours: a focus on Israel/Palestine, student loans, and climate action sink preference effect."

 

The Soviet Union lasted about 70 years, so what’s the difference?

You continually point at bad things that are part of the human condition, that are true for before capitalism, and true (often worse) in communist systems. It’s like following soccer and thinking your team sucks because they don’t score as many goals in a game as your favorite baseball team.

The problem isn’t your soccer team scoring 2 goals a game. The problem is you not understanding it’s harder to score goals in soccer than it is to score runs in baseball.

No way I’m going to find anything you wrote convincing when you never discuss things that are unique, or at least more prominent, in capitalism. Capitalism isn’t the only system that runs out of steam over a human lifespan. There’s an argument out there that the reason kids today don’t have the same visceral negative reaction to fascism is that all the WW II veterans are dead.

 

If only Democrats are included.

Middle class +10, working class/blue collar+8.

Science +9 worked in the Obama administration +6


Protecting social security and making health care more affordable are both +23

 

Can ICE refuse people with a visa to visit WC matches, if they're married to same sex persons, or worse, when they're in the country arrest them and put them on their "have to catch this number of "criminal" aliens" tally?

 

Only if Trump sees a movie or tv show with a similar theme right before the games so he'll want to carry out that thought in his head.

 

no to the first question, and not legally to the second

 

Depends. Anyone coming into the US needs to log out and delete their social media apps from their phones and do the same with emails, etc. US Customs and Border Patrol is allowed to access people's phones, review their social media and emails and to refuse entry for anyone that they deem shouldn't be allowed in. As an example, there have been a number of instances where people coming into the US on vacation or business trips had their social media reviewed by CBP and rejected from entering the US because they made disparaging remarks about Trump.

 

Yes they can do both, legality be damned according to their officers.

Will they? Guess we'll find out

 

Depends how much gold is in Trump's FIFA peace prize trophy.

 

Don't remind him of this commercial.

 

So, probably not on the first and, 'I'll get back to you nearer the time' on the second.

 

I think Capitalism begins much earlier than the Wealth of Nations. Adam Smith was trying to describe the economy that he saw, and to be honest was quite based. I think Adam Smith wouldn't have rejected Marx entirely at all. He loved describing landlords as loving "to reap where they never sowed". I think it's beginning occurs with the discovery of the New World. It relies on infinite growth and that was made possible by the discovery of new land and resources. I'm not anti-capitalist in the idea that I think it never made sense for it to be the dominant form of economy. Rather, my feelings are that we have outgrown it as an economic system and a lot of that is due to education. We know racism is wrong. Throughout early colonialism racism and religion were used to "civilize" the people. Just excuses for taking their land and their resources.

In America we have ignored the death and destruction done in Capitalism's name, by selling our wars as being for "democracy". We care very little about Democracy. Our enemies are all either Socialist Countries (Cuba, North Korea, Venezuela, USSR, Vietnam, Libya under Gaddafi, and now China) or countries that interfere with the Aircraft Carrier Nation(Israel) France/England/USA created to extract oil from the Middle East (Iran, Iraq under Saddam, Egypt back in the day). Saudi Arabia has been an ally for decades and has one of the worst human rights records in history. Rather what I'm arguing is that the reason why everyone prefers Keynesian Capitalism is not because of Capitalism but in spite of it-->it's because of the elements of Socialism that were embedded within it that created the Middle Class. How can you judge Socialism as being a failure of a system, when so much time, energy, poor people's lives, bombs, etc were spent by Capitalism to make it fail? You get what I'm saying? You are evaluating these socialist countries in eras where Capitalist countries had a technological, military, and economic advantage. As those advantages have diminished Capitalisms ability to combat Socialist societies has diminished.

We can see over the last 45 years how Capitalists are not incredibly invested in that social safety net , hence when I say it inherently elevates anti-social psychopaths who then have a massive say in everyone else being a net negative for society-->they aren't providing value and instead are leeching off of everyone else. They've created tax codes that have only increased their wealth to the point where for generations unless something changes, their ancestors will continue to control society. Andrew Mellon was the Secretary Treasury that dropped top tax rates from 73--->25 percent in the 1920s. His grandson Timothy was the one who gave Trump 130 million to cover military salaries.

They've done this because their ability to exploit the rest of the world and continue to create that infinite growth has diminished. With American Empire in decline, these opportunities will only get smaller and smaller. So in my opinion, there is no way for us to return to Keynesian Capitalism and because of this the Capitalists are opting for Fascism, the same they did the last time this cycle came to this conclusion-->In between WW1/WW2 which was the definitive hand over from Britain to America as the dominant empire. I'm arguing that with all of the advancements in technology, looking at these cycles, I think that we have outgrown Capitalism. We can do what happened last time and have a massive redistribution of wealth back to people in the forms of taxation-->social programs. Or we can move forward as a society and begin to provide for everyone's base needs at a minimum and potentially change quite a bit. It would be possible for example, for everyone to work a lot less under a Socialist system. There is no reason why we couldn't go to a four day week for example.

Now would that hurt certain people's lifestyles? Yes the wealthy would have to adjust to a different way of living. That is true. Their definition of Freedom is being able to hoard wealth. How sad would it be for Larry Ellison to have to give up his Hawaiian Island. A tragedy!!! Bill Gates would have to give up his farmland! The horror! Bezos wouldn't be able to rent out an entire European city for his wedding. Peter Thiel might have to learn how to make himself coffee. How upset that will make everyone else! But under a socialist system we would see a better educated population, less crime, women wouldn't have to turn to prostitution or sex work out of desperation, people wouldn't have to ration their insulin, there wouldn't be any homeless people, etc. All of these things are possible, it would just involve a trade-off for some of our most wealthy. I know it would benefit more people than the way we do things currently.

I use China as an example because there are real areas that they have outpaced us in, that under our current model we will never be able to beat them in. Just this past week, they put a ban on any of their companies using Nvidia, which in our recent past we have used bans to hurt them with. Hence why we are almost trying to replicate Soviet Style State-Capitalism that will ultimately end up looking very much like Russia. A country with oligarchs and a dictator in control. I see it like this: The Right Wing of Capitalism is trying to take us in that direction. The Left Wing of Capitalism is doing very little to stop them and at best is trying to minimize the damage. Socialism to me is the most logical step forward given all of these limitations. Hell, these Epstein e-mails we are reading through? There are people in Biden's administration who sat on this for YEARS without doing anything. They do not have the interest of the majority of the people in mind. We are a Democracy in name only at this point. Donald Trump isn't a different version of America. Donald Trump is America with the mask off.

@superdave I think a better way of thinking about what I'm saying is that we aren't going to be able to play baseball anymore. We are either going to have to play poker where we have big winners and big losers OR we can play soccer where we all win or lose together. Russia? They play poker. Saudi Arabia? They play poker. Notice how Democratic those countries are. I don't think we can play baseball anymore, because in order to play baseball we have to be at the top of the food chain. And boy did we get super involved in other countries affairs over the past century so that we could eat. We destroyed Guatemala so that we could have cheap bananas. The opportunities aren't there anymore, because the ability to manufacture consent for this type of Imperialism has gone away, because we know how the sausage is made. Additionally, the world has moved in ways that has counter-balanced American Empire.

 

TLDR

 

Capitalism requires exploitation of the many for the few so it's bad.

 

This shows why editors are still useful.

 

Boy, feel sorry for Chinese astronauts boarding spaceships designed by these copycats.
How do they get those things anyway?