The Democratic Party in Trump's Fascist 2nd Term. Commentary, Ideas & Strategy (+ non Woketicism)

Even if the Senate Republicans gave Chuckles his dumb vote, the House Republicans would never have agreed to it. And even if the House Republicans agreed to it, this president would have vetoed it. And even if this president didn't veto it, he can apparently just decide to rescind the money if he wants to.

 

That's the nub of the issues as far as I'm concerned.

I keep hearing this crap about these 8 only being concerned with how the situation was impacting their constituents. The problem with that is that what they've done makes almost ZERO difference to whether those people will be helped.

Under those circumstances, it seems more likely they were concerned with how the situation was impacting the donors of the democrats in congress and senate, including themselves... not their constituents.

 

At local level, reduce crime and allow more houses to be built, that is what the people want the most.


I am confused about the Inequality/Taxes answer.

work at a research startup and we ran a small study on this actually. what's interesting, is that people didn't care broadly about socialism at all lol here's the results of the forced preference ranking of issues (mamdani+non-mamdani voters) from our MaxDiff pic.twitter.com/uL5fBnmE43

— Jalen Gabbidon (@jalengabbidon) November 10, 2025

 

Lol Jalen's not super smart at designing studies and interpreting the data he creates. Out of the top 5 issues? 4 of them are socialist platform issues. Housing Affordability. Economic Inequality. Education. Transit/Infrastructure. Having Socialism in there when a good portion of the issues are socialist issues is kind of silly. It would have been a better study if he included Democrat, Republican, and Capitalism as answers. Also it's a NYC race, I'm not sure that a candidate's views on Israel/Palestine affects people unless you have immense privilege and the other issues well, don't matter.

Once you read Marxist school of thought it becomes pretty obvious that we are experiencing the death of Capitalism. The New Deal Welfare State bought it another 80 years or so, but the world is a finite place and Capitalism requires infinite growth. Why do you think the Oligarchs are so obsessed with Space? It's a necessity to keep their project alive. China just did it's 5 year plan and they estimate that they are 25 years away from complete modern Socialism and to fulfill the goals outlined by the Revolution. It's why when posters on here talk about them being Capitalistic it's clear they don't really understand what China is trying to do. They pursued Capitalism because the Command Economy model wasn't working for them. They lacked the infrastructure to modernize. They saw opening up as an opportunity to do that, as well as learn from the West. That's why China has been very particular about how business are allowed to operate in China. They want to make sure that they are getting something out of the deal. But their stated goal has always been towards Socialism and then towards Communism.


And I want to make it clear. I don't think anyone is stupid for thinking that China is Capitalistic. And there are definitely components of what they do that interact with and function like Capitalism. That's undeniable. But to say they are a Capitalistic Society would be like calling the United Kingdom's government a Monarchy. I've had to make deliberate decisions of what to consume to understand what they are doing and there has been a lot of Capitalistic Propaganda (for example pay attention to how they frame things in this Koch Brothers funded think tank article. It's old, but it's a good example of how they choose to deliberately frame things to obfuscate things. Keep in Mind the Koch Brothers are a big reason why we are ********ing around with Venezuela right now. https://www.cato.org/policy-report/january/february-2013/how-china-became-capitalist) in the US news space that is deliberately misinforming citizens of what China is and what they aren't. For example, this country which just facilitated a Genocide in Palestine made a big effort in getting people to label what was happening to the Uyghurs a Genocide. They made a big deal out of this. (https://www.axios.com/2020/10/08/un-statement-china-uighurs-xinjiang)
If you click on the link above^^^you'll see that the countries calling it a genocide are all historically European/Western Colonial Powers, while the global south, the are of the world that was colonized fully supported China.

You have to be reading from both sides of the map to get an accurate description of what's going on, because the movers and shakers in this country have all the incentive to paint Socialism in a bad light. Marx isn't the beginning and the end of Communist thought. There have been a lot of people over the past century that have added a bunch of ideas and what has emerged about its development I'm going to try to generalize and simplify here.

Generally speaking the idea is that an economic system will eventually have inherent contradictions that will create a new set of factors that eventually lead to a new system. So Feudalism for example as a conflict between the landholding nobility and the peasantry, economic disparity, and the tension between the decentralized power structure and the need for stability. This led to more centralized power which ultimately exposes Feudalism's inability to allocate resources effectively which leads to the prime conditions for Capitalism to emerge.
Capitalism has very clear and at this point understood internal contradictions. There is a conflict between the wealth generation and how it gets distributed leading to massive social inequalities. For example, we have enough abundance where we could remove poverty if we chose to but Capitalism creates poverty not due to lack of resources but because the desire for wealth of the elites needs to be satiated. There's also a tension between the production of goods for value versus profit-driven exchange. So for example Apple will make it so your phone stops working so you have to buy another one. Objects have planned obsolescence. This is inefficient from a resource allocation standpoint in a way that mirrors the inefficiency under the Feudalist system because it gets to a point where we make choices that only benefit the few at the expense of the very many. Right so Socialism comes in and replaces Capitalism to fix those internal contradictions. And then at some point Socialism will present its own inherent contradictions and the theory would be that we would then pursue Communism.

^^^^What I just put into that paragraph is an idea that the people who own everything is this country would do everything in their power to prevent from being understood by Americans. From a big picture historical perspective Capitalism already kind of died a century ago. The Welfare State slapped a big band aid on it, but if you understand what Capitalism needs to be successful it becomes very apparent that it is a dying system. If that feels strange to hear, maybe think about comparing it to the death of Monarchy into Democracies. The British Empire was able to hold on well into the 20th Century, almost 150 years after Democracy started to perk up. Socialism isn't inconsistent with Democracy at all, it's really just the Democratization of the Economy. And to be honest with you in this late-stage version of Capitalism we have where the floodgates have been open with Citizens United, etc we haven't been a very functional Democracy at all. Hence why Capitalism turned to Authoritarian Fascism a century ago when it was first threatened by Socialism.

And maybe I'm wrong and the people will opt to try and save Capitalism again for awhile, but I think it would be the wrong choice and would certainly be the more violent one resulting in death and destruction. This idea that Socialism doesn't bring about innovation is silly. The Soviets went from being an pre-Industrial Society to being the first civilization to orbit the planet and send humans into Space. They developed cell phones before we did. Our elites are trying to copy USSR state sponsored Capitalism to try to compete with China, but they're going to lose. China is completely integrated. They don't have patents and hide information for market advantage. They share and work together. It beats the hell out of market Capitalism for research and technology. Look at how much we have slashed social programs as well as investments into Research and Technology. The reforms we made to the Stock Market in the 1980s have only destroyed the real value of our Companies. Look at how far companies like General Electric and Boeing have fallen once the main goal became stock price. All of these decisions have been made to benefit the very few at the expense of the very many. Without a place to go to exploit for its resources, Capitalism grind to a halt.


Viva La Revolution!

 

This dude is the lefty Nick Fuentes, he is the most popular politician streamer on the left.

Hasan Piker Declares 'I Don't Have Any Patriotism' for America While Streaming From Tiananmen Square https://t.co/Y9ty0OxSkQ

— Mediaite (@Mediaite) November 11, 2025

 

I will wait for a non Rword response.

 

This is a poor analogy. People on the Marxist/Anarchist/Socialist Left read books. We don't join Twitch groups. Do we know who Hasan is? Sure. For a lot of people he's kind of like the doorway into Leftism because he is on a platform that a lot of young men are on. But people aren't getting radicalized by him.

Your response reminded me of a Kwame Ture speech. I searched for this so you better watch it. It's only like a minute.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DFitOu7xqhm/

 

We had public education and public investment in roads before Das Kapital was published. They’re not socialist policies, unless you want to concede that America is socialist today.

 

That's all you got from that huh. Disappointing.

 

How can "education" be a policy platform for anyone? Socialist or otherwise....lol.

It's such a stupidly vague and broad term to use in drawing any kind of data.

 

Nah, it’s just the point where I chose to move on.

 

Well, at least we know who reads more between the two of us

 

He sucks. On a lot of levels. Also abuses dogs. And thought the US deserved 9/11.

 

So the allegation that Kazuma is referring to here about dog abuse relates to a singular video, here's a link. Kaya has been on stream every day with Hasan for the past four years without any allegations of abuse and they are limited to just this video. He is alleged to have used a shock collar, which he denies. It was a massive story with elements of MAGA and the Democratic Party teaming up together (neoliberals and fascists love to collaborate).

https://www.reddit.com/r/LivestreamFail/comments/1o0sjun/hasan_reaching_for_something_and_seemingly/

I find it curious that you bring that up about Hasan, but I didn't hear you seem to be too worried about the thirteen women Andrew Cuomo sexually harassed. I find your priorities to be.....interesting.

 

This is absolutely infuriating.

 

The guy's a bit of a clown. Apart from anything, droning on about America's failings whilst holding a Chinese flag, (a country that has imprisoned hundreds of thousands of Uyghurs and other Turkic people), marks him out as a pretty dim bulb.

But saying he's a 'lefty Nick Fuentes' is obvious nonsense.

 

I wonder if China plans on carving the faces of Mao, Deng, and Xi into the Tianshan Mountains. Judging by the fact that they aren't trying to remove the Uyghurs from their land and make it a point to display their language on official signs in the region, I think it does create an interesting comparison case to America's treatment of Indigenous people. I think the Chinese if you called them to account for this would ask you for a good explanation for the estimated 4.5 million people that were killed (38 million people displaced) because of America's War on Terror over the past two and a half decades. Xi is certainly no Andrew Jackson. I do find it interesting that the Western Groups calling it a Genocide have struggled so hard to label what is happening in Palestine a Genocide, given the obvious differences in force used, deaths, and land that has been stolen.

 

Further to our discussions about Plattner and his 'issues', this was in today's 'Private Eye' magazine...




As I said, I think the approach of many corporate dems is probably somewhat passe for a Trump infected US polity.

 

Not sure why you're 'explaining' all that to me but, whatever.

Of course, we could also look at the 1-2 million killed during the cultural revolution which, again, was among their own population.