The Democratic Party in Trump's Fascist 2nd Term. Commentary, Ideas & Strategy (+ non Woketicism)

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  1. The Jitty Slitter

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    I'd love to see what today's soy boi socialist made of the old trade unions lol
     
  2. The Jitty Slitter

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    At the risk of a personal vibes post - Sinema is Gen X like me, and I knew a few 20 something radical femmes exactly like her.

    They were the ones at the protests and volunteering as duty solicitor on friday night, then at the women's refuge. We all switched to the green party because we weren't labour voters like our dads. This was the 90s when 'far right' meant neo-liberals and environmental justice and social justice were tightly linked. Though sustainability was much more nonpartisan in those days, green was part of the counter culture, and to me that's always been the Sinema alternative vibe. This is not a criticism. I was one of these people.

    What always happens is people grow up and get a job with real money.

    Sinema also turned out to be corrupt. That's the bad part.

    I don't get those vibes for Kat Abu. Remember that plenty of people currently accuse AOC of the same shit, because <checks notes> she is working for real political power and change
     
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  3. bigredfutbol

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    If you rank the states by the median age of residents, Maine is the oldest state.

    https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/median-age-by-state
     
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  4. Cascarino's Pizzeria

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  5. russ

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    They would think they were all corrupt and worked complicitly with management lol.
    They would also think they were racist and they wouldn't be wrong about that.
     
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  6. soccernutter

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    That's me. And I agree that some kind of "No Kings" message should be there as well.

    The one drawback I have to those messages is that we have dealt with the hate and anger of Trump and his cronies for a decade, and it is draining. The "Life, Liberty, and Pursuit of Happiness" is to put out positive message and put a subtle message which originally came about because we - the Colonies - wanted to escape from the rule of a King. And we are doing the same, now.
     
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  7. Sufjan Guzan

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    I like his views on Gaza, Billionaires, Health Care, Campaign Finance, breaking up Monopolies, the Environment, Public Schools, Ending the Imperial War Machine, and the Housing Crisis.*
     
  8. hotjam2

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    I've been following James Talarico as an TX state legislaor for years before he became more famous and he's the real deal! Just listen to this speech, He'll make to Prez one day!
     
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  9. Sufjan Guzan

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    If you study revolutions and societal breakdowns/changes, one of the things you notice is that what usually happens is that the leaders are often born to a higher class than the one they end up being in as an adult. Fidel Castro for example was born to a wealthy Spanish landowner and his cook. While being illegitimate he was given the best education. Che grew up in an upper middle class Argentinian family. Mao grew up into a relatively wealthy landowner. Lenin's grew up in an upper middle class household. Et cetera, et cetera, ad nauseam.

    With the American Dream failing, many are finding themselves in the under 40 cohort doing worse than their parents. So we are going to see political talent in professions that would have been unheard of a generation ago. In part that political talent is going to be motivated to change the system because they look around and see how the system that isn't working for them isn't going to be working for others. Talarico's experience in Teach for America is a perfect example. The idea behind Teach for America was to recruit untraditional candidates to do a short term teaching assignment, giving them first hand experience into how broken the education system is for low class Americans. The hope was by doing so it would inspire further action to improve the system and the program might just create a President when it's all said and done.
     
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  11. Kazuma

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    Sinema is the way she is regardless of her generation. I've said before she is the embodiment of this old Onion article. She's desperate for attention. And running in a lot of counter culture type circles, I know plenty of people like her. They become easy to spot.

    I know plenty of old hippies that grew up, got a job, made money, and still had predominant left wing views. One of them just helped turn a county in Michigan blue during 2024 and door knocked with Pete Buttigieg, another argued a case regarding gay adoption before the Supreme Court and won it. It's incredibly possible to grow up and still hold those views. But they are also pragmatic.

    As for Kat Abu, the issue is she started going after a seat that has been solid Dem in a district that she doesn't live in. Among other things, the whole thing just seems like she's grifting since she left Media Matters. That, and carpetbagger. Michigan just had one in the Dem senate primary, got curbstomped by Slotkin, and nary a peep since he lost. It's likely she does similar if she loses.
     
  12. ceezmad

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    I am very sceptical about this being correct.

    But if Democrats win 50% of all males, the midterm will be a blue tsunami.

    "New - Generic Ballot poll (Man Voters)

    Democrats 48% (+4)
    Republicans 42%"


     
  13. American Brummie

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    I know you precious snowflakes don't like to hear this but I don't ********ing care. The 82nd Airborne is being deployed, gasoline prices are about to hit Summer of 2007 levels, jobs are being shed, the President and several Cabinet members are pedophiles orchestrating a criminal cover-up, Americans are being put in concentration camps, and the Constitution has failed to stop a slide into fascism.

    You -- all of you -- are not doing enough.
     
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  14. superdave

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    We’re doing a lot more than you
     
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  15. zaqualung

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    hmmm.... The poverty of the downtrodden created the ferment which created the Russian Socialist Democratic Party (mostly in Exile too, btw). None of the hundreds of years of downtroddenness or horror excuses the latter actions of the leaders who finally won for their cause in 1917.

    Concomitantly, Zionism had some allowable set of rights that were reasonable to assert. But little or nothing like what we have subsequently seen in the wake of their initial successes is ascribable as a "right". Particularly in the last period of the state of Israel. (I'd give it 4 periods. 1 - prior to the creation of the state of Israel. 2 - through 1967. 3 - Israel 68-92. and 4 - Post 1992
    Period 4 hasn't been about anything much more than deception and aggrandizement.
     
  16. Naughtius Maximus

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    But otherwise OK? :eek:

    Sorry. Just trying to lighten the mood a little :)
     
  17. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
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  18. American Brummie

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    I don't care! It's not enough to stop the descent into total collapse. If you're responding to an illegal war and a criminal coverup and a shredding of the Constitution and literal concentration camps with "people living overseas should do as much as me" then you are a Republican and a supporter of the regime. There is no other explanation.
     
  19. American Brummie

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    Get off your ass and protest. Or wear the red hat.
     
  20. superdave

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    Yes there is
     
  21. American Brummie

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    I wouldn't want to show off my pro-Trump sympathies either if I were you, I get it. But you are a Trump supporter.
     
  22. superdave

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    No I’m not
     
  23. zaqualung

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    Leaving aside the fact that a drunken gotten tattoo could actually be a drunken gotten tattoo (and who would know best - he or the internet?)
    anyone not approaching 80 years old (ffs) is the best candidate.....
     
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  24. song219

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    Shouldn't the wicked be punished? I don't believe in the supernatural but should not nations be punished for their actions like people? This could just be the beginning of a deserved decline.
     
  25. The Jitty Slitter

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    Like i say, I know lots of people who grew up, got real jobs, and are now just lefty middle class types doing big corporate jobs.

    Sinema is corrupt. That has nothing to do with whether she was a lefty or not. Plenty of righties are also corrupt. But with them it's never seen as a betrayal of principle, except by Bulwark types.
     

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