The Democratic Party in Trump's Fascist 2nd Term. Commentary, Ideas & Strategy (+ non Woketicism)

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  1. bigredfutbol

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    It didn't, but that doesn't mean some on the left won't see allies based on economic policies when they shouldn't.
     
  2. Sufjan Guzan

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    Feb 13, 2016
    https://store.tuckercarlson.com/products/neocons-are-gay-mug?variant=46524241969310


    Further proof that populism is the new politics and the electorate is up for grabs. Check out Tucker Carlson’s merch he is selling. I linked this one specifically so the neoliberals don’t feel too bad….The young people on the right feel the same way about your peers on the other side of the aisle.

    Which is why we need to win these voters because if they stay on the right we’re gonna get engaged in more culture war bullshit and social justice ain’t gonna stand a chance.
     
  3. superdave

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    I don’t think you are. Or at least, you weren’t when you made the original post.
     
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  4. The Jitty Slitter

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    Dude I listened to PSA 3x a week for years. I've heard more trashing of Sinematic than you've had hot dinners. Her's is a very standard career arc of latte liberal who gets corrupted

    I don't see what that has to do with Kat, except that Sinema was also once a young liberal woman who championed a certain ideology
     
  5. superdave

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    You wrote that she has always been a corporate wannabe. I pointed out that she began her political career as part of the Green Party. And your response is…your favorite podcast? Just admit you got overexcited and made a bad post and move on.
     
  6. The Jitty Slitter

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    whatevs

    You are the guy claiming Kat is 'like sinema" because she's what exactly?

    Sinema is corrupt - happens a million times when people get near the money
     
  7. superdave

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    That was Kazuma not me.
     
  8. The Jitty Slitter

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    ??


     
  9. Sufjan Guzan

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    Superdave likes data, but he settles for vibes when they are his vibes.

    Not sure his cornbread is fully cooked in the middle.
     
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  10. Kazuma

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    Yo, you made that comparison first, not me.
     
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  11. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
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    We usually see this during happy hour and later. This is quite early in the day. :eek:
     
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  12. Sufjan Guzan

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    Feb 13, 2016
    The sad part is he would quite like to sit at my bar!

    I make a proper old fashioned.

    Side note: between Platner, Aoc, and Kat it seems like being a bartender might just be the best pre-requisite at the moment for public office. Talarico was a schoolteacher. Them too.
     
  13. superdave

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    I thought it was obvious but maybe not.

    Vibes and ideology are two different things.

    What did you mean by saying she was always a corporate wannabe, when she started out with the Green Party? That’s the part that I said was wrong.
    1. You believe in astrology
    2. You think Crockett was the DNC candidate and that race was less important than campaign websites.
    3. You talk about the founding of Israel and ignore the Holocaust.
     
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  14. Sufjan Guzan

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    1. Is that what I believe or am I trolling the faith people put into religion? Can you be sure?

    2. She was. Talarico had a clear message about campaign finance, treating Israel like a normal country, and attacking billionaires that wasn’t present in Crockett’s campaign.

    3. I addressed this. You’ve ignored the Balfour Declaration and the overall Zionist movement which began four decades before the Holocaust. That vacuum you’ve got don’t suck.

    4. You are welcome anytime to my bar. You’d have a blast. Full confidence!
     
  15. diablodelsol

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    Actually Platner is. And I’ll go on record right now predicting he’s gonna end up being a hell of a lot closer to fetterman than he is to Bernie. You can get away with no legislative record in the House but it’s just stupid to elect someone like that to the senate.
     
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  16. Mike03

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    Yeah, I heard some union leader compare him favorably to Manchin and Fetterman.
     
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  17. rslfanboy

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    Yeah. The Platner thing sucks. But a (D) is better than an (R).

    Janet Mills is NOT the answer though. The ******** is wrong with Maine? Is there not anyone between these two who can successfully run against Collins? Or did we burn through all of them?
     
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  18. bigredfutbol

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    Populism is not the answer to what ails us. It's the larval stage of authoritarianism.
     
  19. Sufjan Guzan

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    I think he’s worth the risk based on who he is running against. He says all the right things. He seems to be authentic. I’d take him in a fight over Chuck Schumer. I like the idea of seeing how someone with no political experience who understands how the current system affects normal people would do in the Senate. Definitely a risk for sure. Working for Blackwater shows a naivety on his part and being in that system is not a good sign. That being said though. It’s time for the people who are inheriting the earth to inherit the mantle of leading the earth. No more 70 plus year olds.
     
  20. rslfanboy

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    I have a friend who reminds me a ton of Graham Platner. He even did a turn as a merc after he served his 8 years. Almost went back in a fit of depression after his somewhat-estranged dad essentially committed suicide by alcohol.

    I think Graham is an incomplete human who is still trying to figure out who he is. Hopefully, he will surround himself with good people and LISTEN TO THEM and take advice. The scary part is that he could easily become something else entirely without support.
     
  21. Sufjan Guzan

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    Was FDR an authoritarian?
     
  22. Cascarino's Pizzeria

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    They're used to patrons and then when elected, their constituents bitching. Most people I know wouldn't last a week in a busy bar or restaurant.

    I switched out bourbon for Laird's Applejack in my Old Fashioneds and have to say they're pretty damn good.
     
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  23. rslfanboy

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    We lucked out that he peaced out and then we passed the 22nd. The US has been really fortunate in this regard a couple of times.
     
  24. bigredfutbol

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    #3849 bigredfutbol, Mar 5, 2026
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    No. Nor was he a populist in any meaningful sense.
     
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  25. superdave

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    I’ve never thought of FDR as a populist. Huey Long was the lefty populist of that era, not FDR. FDR was the ultimate pragmatist. What was the saying about him…a second rate mind but a first rate temperament? Something like that.
     
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