Here's a food metaphor for all our ICs. The quarreling brothers are Americans before the New Deal aka "socialism". Mikey is Americans after the New Deal was implemented.
If Netherlands were the US, it would be the 42 biggest state by size, and 5th by population, and first by population density (not counting Washington, DC). As an example.
How FDR Saved Capitalism During the economic crisis of the 1930s, many expected a socialist revolution. The revolution never came. Why? The man in the White House co-opted the left. By Hoover fellow Seymour Martin Lipset and Gary Marks. https://www.hoover.org/research/how-fdr-saved-capitalism
Slightly OT, but... People keep making this rather generalised statement and sometimes it's relevant but sometimes it isn't. In areas like healthcare, for example, Europe, excluding russia, is approximately 6.2M sq. km. The population is 600m while America is roughly 9.8m sq. km and the population about 330m. Interestingly, if you exclude Alaska the area likewise drops to about 8M sq. km. but the population only drops to about 329m. So the idea that a healthcare system like most of Europe has, (in one form or another), wouldn't work in America because 'We're a big country', doesn't really work as an argument in all circumstances. In the area of infrastructure spending and planning, the fact you're a large country hasn't changed since the days of the building of the Hoover and other dams. It also doesn't address the fact that China is about 9.6m sq. km and it has 1.4Bn people and they seem to manage to build stuff. The fact is that ALL countries have their own peculiarities and conditions which create problems for them. There's nothing special about the USA in THAT sense.
I'll offer a different take from others here, less quantitative and more qualitative. American individualism (ergo individual entitlement) leads to people seeing project costs in terms of what it's doing to them, v. what it's doing for them. Overall the common good is a poor thing to argue for. Which is a shame since if we just unclenched we could have nice things.
Is this your version of Four Dead in Bowling Green? The CCC called with its government labor. The WPA called with all of the work done to parks, bridges, and libraries that were constructed. Eugene V Debs is stirring in his grave.
The Tennessee Valley Authority says hi. I would argue Social security has nothing to do with the means of production, though.
This is why we need strong governments to force things through if they're for the greater good. Unfortunately, it's too easy to force things through for the benefit of business using the argument of 'da jerbs' whereas, if it impacts private citizens, it's usually a case of 'screw them arseholes'.
A lot of talk about socialism, pros, cons and bullshit. But everyone is ignoring the biggest social thing that keeps America going as an entity. The tax donor system. Where the states with the poorest income, education, and resulting intelligence suck off the tits of the progressive states. Heres a small example of mostly red but not all, states who benefit from this (Robin Hood was a communist system) Yes Texas large as it is. Outspoken as Texans are, is a receiver state. Just today Trump said he is denying aid to several blue states. So, I’m being semi serious, someone tell me why this system isn’t communistic and Trump isn’t acting like Stalin in 25 words or less. Afterthought. . How many countries in the socialistic European Union benefit from a system like that? Curious.
Isnot it so that you have a registration of the party you "belong" to, Democrat or Rep? Is that register accessible? If so, can't we start hunting repulsives if they come over here? Make them pay for being a repulsive enabler by charging them a gop-tax.
Does the Spain have the same health care set of policies as Belgium? Or France and Italy? Or Poland and Portugal?
When one has a country as large as the US, both geographically and by population, it is difficult to compare the ability to do infrastructure on a national level. State level is a better comparison, but even that is difficult because some of the infrastructure is done at the federal level (think interstates), and some of the infrastructure projects need federal funding. Plus, @Pittsburgh Ref put it well in the quantitative v. qualitative comparison.
I borrowed this from facebook. So don’t get defensive with me. So France just ripped out every American tech platform from their entire government. Microsoft Teams? Gone. Zoom? ******** off. Gmail? Au revoir, dickhead. That's 2.5 million French workers no longer using American software. France is saving 30 million dollars a year that was flowing to Silicon Valley. Germany's ditching Microsoft, saving 15 million euros. Austria, Denmark, Switzerland - all jumping ship. This is BILLIONS walking out the door. And why? Because you absolute muppets elected a guy so ********ing unhinged that Europe decided depending on American technology is a national security threat. Trump's whole thing was bringing jobs back to America, right? Making America Great Again? Instead, this spray-tanned dipshit has ********ed American tech companies so badly that Europe's spending billions to build competitors. He's literally creating rivals to Microsoft and Google through pure incompetence. He threatened NATO allies like they're real estate he can flip, and now they're building their own internet. Microsoft's desperately trying to calm everyone down while their biggest export market walks away. China and Russia are ********ing THRILLED. Putin's praising Trump's chaos. Trump's doing more damage to American economic dominance than any foreign adversary ever could. And the worst part? Seventy-five million Americans looked at this dumpster fire and voted for it TWICE. You elected someone so spectacularly stupid that he convinced Europe to ditch American products and build their own. Congratulations, Trump voters. You wanted to own the libs. Instead you owned American companies out of billions, destroyed American credibility, and handed economic opportunities to our competitors. You voted for a Mango Mussolini Oompa Loompa ************************ with the geopolitical sophistication of a swamp turd, and now American tech companies are paying the price. France is giving America the finger. And honestly? Trump ********ing earned it.
^^^^^^^^^^^^ I have doubts that 2.5M workers ditching Microsoft products would mean only $30M. That’s $12 a year.
Most European countries have similar systems with universal coverage and state organised cost controls. There's even a EU-wide health insurance card which enables access to care across the region, (although it ca be a bit hit and miss, it has to be said). So there will be variations but NOBODY uses the US system... that's the point. The idea that being a big country causes some utterly impossible administrative task that nobody's ever seen before is nonsense.