The Democratic Party in Trump's Fascist 2nd Term. Commentary, Ideas & Strategy (+ non Woketicism)

The confiscatory rates necessary to fund universal free education 2-22 are very European ,but how else can we be serious about caring for our kids and preventing future fascism?

 

I agree. So does I think literally everyone else in this forum.

So we have a choice…we can let him go all jihadi against socialism and pay him no mind as he rants on his soapbox. Or, we can taunt him and bait him and thereby induce him to post the same things he’s already posted 10 times, as if the 11th time will be different.

We have a choice here folks.

 

This is about electability, in this country, and what it takes to win a national election. Trust me, people here hate socialism. They may not know much about it, but they know it's downright un-American.

Nobody here even talks about it, ever, once you get offline.

 

That was also a US thing before Reagan, no ? I heard the confiscatory rate was high (more than 70% ? I can't remember) from Roosevelt to Reagan. I'm probably too vague here and possibly wrong, but it seems even the USA had their repressed socialist moment (not soviet type, of course).

 

bro, stop whining. use the ignore feature as you said you would.

 

This is the stupidest debate ever because you love socialism, but you are just worked up about the name.

Just do socialism and call it "New Deal 2: Electric Boogaloo" and everyone is happy.

 

It was 70% under Reagan. It was something like 93% in the 1950s; I think JFK lowered that to 70%

 

Spending is a choice, the USA has made some shitty ones.

Eliminating or remediating the health insurance-industrial complex would reduce individuals' costs and make more room for the taxes necessary to contribute to things including education. Personally I favor single-payer but any way we kill that whale works for me.

If we cut back to a merely obscene amount of defense spending that would mean a lot (LOT) of available government funding for things including education.

Increasing top tax rates to something like our grandparents were familiar with would be another lever to use here.

 

This is where we get hung up, I think. Yes, we mustn't call it socialism. Call it publicly funded programs and services that serve the greater good, anything. But the DSA crowd is interested in more than that, they want a whole new system, something radically different and they see themselves as at war with old guard Dems (I swear I'm not making this up) and how does that translate into success for Democrats in November?

My job here is to sounds the alarm. I feel like I keep getting pulled back into this, clearly it's a hot button topic for me, I'm just fed up with the wishy washy incoherent self-defeating left in this country who can't seem to hang together when it really, really matters.

 

Alright, signing off for a bit.

Wouldn't want to belabor this.

(Voting blue begrudgingly whilst bemoaning the Dems and cheerleading the socialists won't work. We need the young @Sufjan Guzan contingent to be out there with gusto fighting their Marxist asses off for the Democrats or its game over)

 

Let me guess who our resident paranoid would have voted for......


Moderate Socialist Antonio Jose Seguro appeared to be headed for a landslide victory in ‌Portugal's presidential runoff on Sunday, with two exit polls ‌putting him in the 67%-73% range, well ahead of his far-right rival Andre Ventura.

 

Uhm,no, I'm not

 

Mamdani would be a moderate socialist in Spain.

 

For us, red is blue and blue is red.

 

I just wanted to share my appreciation of Jeffries and Schumer and how they're protecting Americans from being murdered in the streets, assaulted, kidnapped, tortured and having most of their Bill of Rights violated by an armed standing army.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/feb/05/democrats-ice-reforms-funding-bill

I can hear him now...."I know we have this thing called the Constitution but with these agreements, which restate the Constitution, everything will be fine now. ICE can go back to their terrible raids in a more couth manner now."

 

I am in, maybe I will throw money at this group.

Next America Era

"Ezra Klein's Abundance movement is getting some backup: A new political group is urging Democrats to embrace "pro-growth," deregulatory policies with an eye toward 2028, according to plans first shared with Axios."

Axios: Centrist Dems strike back with new group

Ezra Klein's Abundance movement is getting some backup: A new political group is urging Democrats to embrace "pro-growth," deregulatory policies with an eye toward 2028, according to plans first shared with Axios.

Known as Next…

— Politics & Poll Tracker 📡 (@PollTracker2024) February 8, 2026

 

Abundance Democrats are the same people who helped get us here.

 

Interesting approach, offering an alternative to conservatives by becoming more conservative!

 

@The Jitty Slitter 3rd Way: The Sequel!! The Neo Lib Lives

 

Just when you think Ezra Klein is learning his place he surprises you with continued mediocrity.