The Decline of Proper Nicknames

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  1. Gregoriak

    Gregoriak BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 27, 2002
    Munich
    When I look at the nicknames current football players have (in Germany at least), I've noticed a worrisome decline in inventiveness. German players used to have great nicknames back in the old days, but today all people are able to come up with are belittlements of the actual name.

    Check out some of the old inventive nicknames:

    Bernhard Dietz = "Enatz"
    Hans-Georg Schwarzenbeck = "Katsche"
    Klaus Fichtel = "Tanne"
    Rudi Völler = "Tante Käthe"
    Michael Lameck = "Ata"
    Harald Schumacher = "Toni"
    Michael Zorc = "Susi"
    Wolfgang Kleff = "Otto"
    Jürgen Kohler = "Kokser"
    Franz Roth = "Bulle"

    The list is endless.

    If you check out today's players, a lack of invention is obvious:

    Gerald Asamoah = "Asa"
    Miroslav Klose = "Miro"/"Mirek"
    Lukas Podolski = "Poldi"
    Bastian Schweinsteiger = "Schweini"
    Tim Borowski = "Boro"
    Christoph Metzelder = "Metze"
    Michael Ballack = "Balla"

    And so on.

    How could it come to this sad state of affairs?
     
  2. Alex_K

    Alex_K Member+

    Mar 23, 2002
    Braunschweig, Germany
    Club:
    Eintracht Braunschweig
    Nat'l Team:
    Bhutan
    I have no explanation, although it most likely has to be related to the continous decline of football, the media and culture in general, but I wanted to say that this is simply one of the best threads ever!
     
  3. benztown

    benztown Member+

    Jun 24, 2005
    Club:
    VfB Stuttgart
    I never thought about it, but you're right...the only active player with a cool nickname that I'm aware of is Andreas Neuendorf = "Zecke".

    Then again, I kinda like Salto Klose and Prinz Poldi. They might not be very inventive but they are all right. Plus, after the Kaiser and König Otto, the royal family is now finally complete.

    Another great one from the past, that's not on your list Berti Vogts = "Terrier", but you're right, the list would be endless.
     
  4. sting-ray

    sting-ray New Member

    May 16, 2005
    Bad Zw'ahn
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    a weird one is Lutscher for Frings... mostly cuz of what it can mean..
     
  5. HeyaBVB

    HeyaBVB New Member

    May 4, 2005
    Kiel, Germany
    depends on what he "lutscht" *runs*
     
  6. arthur d

    arthur d Member

    Oct 17, 2004
    Cambridge England
    At least we have 'DJ' Asamoah!

    Great thread. I particularly hate the stuff Bild come up with, King Knall and Prinz Peng.... ouch! Does anyone know where the nicknames used to come from? In England it's a mix between media (e.g. 'Shrek' Rooney) and teammates (e.g. 'The Hammer' Hitzlsperger). I guess the old German nicknames used to be invented by teammates rather than the press, so the current football players are to blame for being boring really?
     
  7. arthur d

    arthur d Member

    Oct 17, 2004
    Cambridge England
    Another question, maybe you know this, Gregoriak: what about classic nicknames in England and Holland? I can't really think of anything from the old days.
     
  8. Mattbro

    Mattbro Member+

    Sep 21, 2001
    I think the greatest nickname ever is still active: Ailton, Der Kugelblitz.
     
  9. Gregoriak

    Gregoriak BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 27, 2002
    Munich
    It seems there are basically four main categories for nicknames:

    1. The highly original ones, those where there is no logical explanation. These almost always originate from the time the player was still a kid, given to him by his fellow bolzplatz friends. Examples: "Ata", "Enatz" etc.

    2. Nicknames that are referring to a physical attribute of the player. Examples: "Tanne", "Bulle", "Ente", "Der Dicke", "Blonder Engel".

    3. Nicknames that are referring to the special way the player in question plies his trade. Examples: "Terrier", "Walz", "Rambo".

    [the above two are closely linked]

    4. The highly unoriginal nicknames, those that are only a unimaginative belittlement of the name. Examples: "Schweini", "Poldi" etc.

    #4 is overly prevalent these days, while #1 was overly prevalent in the old days. Today a player with a #1 nickname is very hard to find.
     
  10. sting-ray

    sting-ray New Member

    May 16, 2005
    Bad Zw'ahn
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany

    HAHA exactly :D
     
  11. Gregoriak

    Gregoriak BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 27, 2002
    Munich
    To whom do the following nicknames belong (Dutch and English players):

    Professor Eigenwijs
    Firehead
    Paleface
    Kleine Co
    Giraffe
    Dixie
    Supersub
    Gazza
    Ted
    Chopper
    Crazy Horse
    Bites yer legs
    The Governor
    Kees
    Mighty Mouse
    Wizard of Dribble
    Super Mac
    Wor Jackie
    Swede
    Psycho
     
  12. arthur d

    arthur d Member

    Oct 17, 2004
    Cambridge England
    My favourite ones have always been the category 3 ones, as they are not as random as your category 1 nicknames and actually refer to the football. So I also really like the Kugelblitz. It's difficult to beat Manni Bananenflanke Kaltz though, that must be one of the best names ever (already the "Manni" is great). Together with Horst Kopfballungeheuer Hrubesch of course (note the mix of category 2 and 3 here!).

    To reiterate my previous post, do you know about England or Holland? Maybe it's worth posting on their boards.

    Edit: you just beat me to it. Cheers!
     
  13. Gregoriak

    Gregoriak BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 27, 2002
    Munich
    Thanks! I do think that is already a good explanation. It's just sad to see how uninventive people have become these days.
     
  14. Jaison

    Jaison New Member

    May 6, 2005
    Tristan da Cunha
    It's sheer laziness theae days that is responsible for these nicknames. You can take any persons name and add an "i" "o" or "a" to the end. It's like NHL nicknames: Ryan Smyth = Smitty, Jim Peplinski = Peppers, etc. Very inane indeed!

    "Lutscher" Frings is one of the better current nicknames though.

    Don't some people call Mertesacker "Latte"? Now, that's much better than "Merte".


    Anyways, @ Gregoriak's english/dutch nicknames:

    Gazza= Gascoigne of course
    Chopper= Ron "Chopper" Harris (He'll be proud of Boulahrouz me thinks :D )
    Psycho = Stuart Pearce
    The Governor = Paul Ince
     
  15. arthur d

    arthur d Member

    Oct 17, 2004
    Cambridge England
    Without googling for it, I can only do the following:

    Giraffe - Ronaldinho?
    Supersub - Freddy Ljungberg?
    Gazza - Gascoigne of course
    The Governor - Paul Ince
    Mighty Mouse - Kevin Keegan
    Psycho - Stuart Pearce

    But as you say English and Dutch players, the first two must have had predecessors.
     
  16. Jaison

    Jaison New Member

    May 6, 2005
    Tristan da Cunha
    Lol..

    Great minds think alike! :D
     
  17. arthur d

    arthur d Member

    Oct 17, 2004
    Cambridge England
    Although this is not entirely wrong, I would like to put this into perspective. I agree that the German media have become (and are becoming) worse, and that the situation in German football has been much better in the past. Nevertheless, it's also very easy to put past things onto a pedestal, simply because they are in the past. There are many aspects of German culture that are far better today than they have ever been before, most notably the increased degree of internationalism and the increase in language skills. Saying that culture is on a continuous decline is clearly oversimplified! And in any case, being maudlin about it is no solution.
     
  18. arthur d

    arthur d Member

    Oct 17, 2004
    Cambridge England
    Hey, I also noticed that.

    I am curious about the other ones though! Maybe we should turn this into a thread where everyone lists the nicknames they know? I noticed that I don't really know so many!
     
  19. Jaison

    Jaison New Member

    May 6, 2005
    Tristan da Cunha
    Yeah, that's a good idea!

    Reinhard Libuda -> "Stan" Libuda, since his dribbling prowess reminded many of Sir Stanley Matthews.

    The Blonde arrow = Di Stefano

    La Brujita (The little wizard) = Juan Veron. His dad, Juan Ramón Veron, another footballing legend in Argentina was nicknamed La Bruja (The wizard), so fittingnly his son was named the diminutive of that.
     
  20. svwin

    svwin New Member

    May 14, 2006
    Germany
    No, it`s not that bad if you take the others:
    Oliver Kahn= Titan
    Bernd Schneider= Schnix
    Thorsten Frings= Lutscher, Fringsler
    David Odonkor= Odo, Ben Johnson
    Lukas Podolski= Prinz Poldi, Prinz Peng, Polski
    Michael Ballack= Balle, Micha
    Per Mertesacker= Merte, Latte
    Miroslav Klose= King Knall, Salto Klose, Klöschen
    Marcell Jansen= Jänschen
    Jens Lehmann= Liehman
    Phillip Lahm= Lahmy, Zauberzwerg
    Sebastian Deisler= Basti Fantasty
    I think there are several more I don`t remember at the moment, but I think some of them are really amazing.:D
     
  21. arthur d

    arthur d Member

    Oct 17, 2004
    Cambridge England
    This is where Stan Libuda comes from, didn't know that!

    From 1990: Diego Buchwald. Kind of obvious where it comes from.
     
  22. SirManchester

    SirManchester Member+

    Apr 14, 2004
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Lahm - Zauberzwerg? HAHAHAHA, I literally laughed out loud. Isn't that a bit of an insult?

    Anyway, I'm pretty sure everyone here (including Bayern fans) know who the baby-faced assasin is.
     
  23. Jaison

    Jaison New Member

    May 6, 2005
    Tristan da Cunha
    Terry Venables = El Tel (From his time coaching Barca).

    Jason "Pineapple Head" Lee (His hairdo).
     
  24. Alex_K

    Alex_K Member+

    Mar 23, 2002
    Braunschweig, Germany
    Club:
    Eintracht Braunschweig
    Nat'l Team:
    Bhutan
    There might also have been a certain tongue-in-cheek element to my post ;). Im currently going through tons of old newspapers from the 1920s and I'm always amazed of the amount of far-out anti-Semitism and extreme Nationalism you could find in "regular" newspapers (meaning not of the Völkischer Beobachter kind of papers) back then. I'm glad that this isn't the case anymore.

    But, that being said, have you talked to German teenagers recently? :D Personally I'd like to thing that we didn't talk like this a decade ago, when I was in my mid-teens ;). If a culture gives people like Dieter Bohlen celebrity status, there has to be something wrong somewhere...
     
  25. comme

    comme Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 21, 2003
    Not sure if this is open to all but

    Dixie- Dean
    Supersub- David Faircough was the original but now Ole Solskjaer
    Gazza- Paul Gascoigne
    Chopper- Ron Harris
    Crazy Horse- Emlyn Hughes
    Bites yer legs- Norman Hunter
    The Guv'nor- Paul Ince
    Mighty Mouse- Kevin Keegan
    Wizard of Dribble- Stanley Matthews
    Super Mac- Malcolm McDonald
    Wor Jackie- Jackie Milburn
    Psycho- Stuart Pearce

    Some of my own favourites are

    Darren Anderton- Sicknote or Shaggy
    Mark Hughes- Sparky
    Dave Basset- Harry
    Brian McClair- Chocky
    Jonathon Woodgate- Village
    Brendan Batson, Cyrille Regis and Laurie Cunningham- The Three Degrees

    In England most nicknames are now going the same way. Giggsy, Becks, Keano, just using the name really.
     

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