Alert: The Cuypers Belt: The OFFICIAL Hugo Cuypers Nutrider/Career Deathwatch Thread

Discussion in 'Chicago Fire' started by xtomx, Feb 6, 2024.

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How many Goals with Cuypers score this season?

  1. Nikolic level (24+)

    4 vote(s)
    20.0%
  2. Razov level (18+)

    3 vote(s)
    15.0%
  3. Magee Level (15+)

    8 vote(s)
    40.0%
  4. Kacper, Koutsias, Kai combined Level (12+)

    1 vote(s)
    5.0%
  5. Beric Level (10+)

    1 vote(s)
    5.0%
  6. Duran/Quincey-time level (8+)

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  7. McBride level (7)

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  8. At least we know Frank will play him.

    7 vote(s)
    35.0%
  9. When he doesn't score in three straight games, people here call for his benching. Play the kids!

    8 vote(s)
    40.0%
  10. It doesn't matter, as SOMETHING STUPID will happen!

    11 vote(s)
    55.0%
  11. Malört

    11 vote(s)
    55.0%
  12. Rubber Dick

    8 vote(s)
    40.0%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. Jiggly_333

    Jiggly_333 Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Mar 8, 2015
    Corner of Bedlam and Squalor (It's that way ->)
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
    If Lewandowski cannot raise the output we got from Hugo, I will not let any of you forget this. Hugo is still leading the league's golden boot race. We chased the name and unsettled a guy who already worked. The thing about "the devil you know" and that. So we'll see what happens with the guy who, while he was still playing at a high level, is significantly older and maybe not as hungry.
     
  2. overlap_old_coach

    Chicago Fire
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    May 2, 2022
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  3. schroncar

    schroncar Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Mar 2, 2007
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The timetable of this sale makes me think it may have been discussed and basically agreed to six months ago. Fire talked to Cuypers, Cuypers says he would prefer to leave if Lewy is acquired, Fire agrees and lines up a conditional transfer agreement, etc. ( Surprised at price)
    Kinda wild theory but I cannot help but wonder.
     
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  4. xtomx

    xtomx Moderator
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    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    I find it hard to believe that he would not want to play with one of the greatest players of all time.
    If so, it is short sighted on his part.
    If so, and we received $7.5 million for him for letting him six months before his contract ended (and he could walk for free), good business for us.

    It still sucks just about everything possible, though.
     
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  5. overlap_old_coach

    Chicago Fire
    United States
    May 2, 2022
    WAIT! Maybe he pulls a Basti and plays one half with each team!:D
     
  6. go fire

    go fire Member

    Chicago Fire
    United States
    Oct 8, 2023
    Zink and Bamba can provide A LOT of quality balls in the box for Lewy. I see the Fire's new number 9 killing it in the MLS. Love Cuypers but a huge upgrade.
     
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  7. Mikebsiu

    Mikebsiu Member+

    Mar 15, 2008
    Club:
    RSC Anderlecht
    Huge upgrade? If Lewandowski was younger I might agree, but he’s old. Cuypers is in the golden boot race and really presses well. MLS is not an easy league to play in, especially with the crazy travel they have to go through. People underestimate that factor. Hope he thrives, but plenty of old Europeans have been humbled by MLS.
     
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  8. overlap_old_coach

    Chicago Fire
    United States
    May 2, 2022
    #58 overlap_old_coach, Jul 20, 2026
    Last edited: Jul 20, 2026
    TL/DR: ‘At the players request’


     
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  9. bunge

    bunge BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 24, 2000
    He gave up. :(
     
  10. overlap_old_coach

    Chicago Fire
    United States
    May 2, 2022
    And/or he knew GGG is fundamentally not a 2 striker thinker and preferred moving now to moving in December.:coffee:
     
  11. bunge

    bunge BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 24, 2000
    That was the giving up part. It’s a bummer but he earned the pay day and sometimes the club has to reward the player and set them free.
     
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  12. harrylee773

    harrylee773 Member+

    Palermo
    Jul 28, 2004
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  13. xtomx

    xtomx Moderator
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    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
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  14. Jiggly_333

    Jiggly_333 Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Mar 8, 2015
    Corner of Bedlam and Squalor (It's that way ->)
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
    I feel like there's a reasonable conversation about the role of teammates here. I feel like I brought it up a while ago.
     
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  15. xtomx

    xtomx Moderator
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    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Sure, but that was not the post.

    The post was questioning whether or not Lewandowski, the fifth highest goal-scorer in the history of the sport, and third in the current era, was "apparently good."

    The thing about Cuypers is that he was a good forward for MLS, but he was not the star of Bayern Munich, Barcelona, Dortmund or any National team. Lewandowski has been all of those. To say (and I quote directly, as I do not want to misinterpret Harry), "Lewandowski is as good here as he apparently has been previously..." is incredible demeaning to Lewandowski.

    If your comment is whether or not he will score 40 or 50 goals in a season (all competitions) because his team mates are not as good in Chicago, that is a legit question, but that was not the comment that I quoted.
     
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  16. xtomx

    xtomx Moderator
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    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    I know we are all in a bit of a state of shock, as this upends what we were hoping/expecting.

    I think we should see how it all plays out
     
  17. bunge

    bunge BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 24, 2000
    “We were excited about trying a 4-4-2,” Berhalter said Monday. “We thought it had potential. Alas, we never actually get to see it on the field but it was good in concept.”

    Hugo just proved he’s not the best teammate or the teammate we needed him to be. Best of luck to you, Hugo. I hope to see you in the All-Star game.
     
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  18. harrylee773

    harrylee773 Member+

    Palermo
    Jul 28, 2004
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah, apparently has been previously. I don’t follow any league he’s played in - I know as much about him as I did about Shaqiri when he signed. Apparently- based on people’s reactions online, he’s a world class player. I hope that, like some world class players, unlike some world class players (some of whom have worn our badge), he plays as well in MLS as he has before coming here. If he’s a Maloney or Castillo it will be a much harder pill to swallow losing Hugo.
     
  19. overlap_old_coach

    Chicago Fire
    United States
    May 2, 2022
    He talks about it like it’s a special new tactic he and the players would have to learn :confused:
     
  20. bunge

    bunge BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 24, 2000
    It’s a 4-4-2.
     
  21. xtomx

    xtomx Moderator
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    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Harry, come on. You really are not that ignorant, right? You could do 10 seconds of research, right?!?

    Once again, he is the sixth highest scoring player in history. Of the hundreds of thousands of players in World football (including Cuypers, Nikolic, Blanco, Hristo, and Ante Razov), FIVE have scored more goals: Messi, C Ronaldo, motherf*cking Pele, Puszkas and one other (and, as I recall the fifth is suspect).

    He was a MULTI time scoring champion in Bundesliga.

    He has 238 league goals in 253 matches for frigging Bayern.
    He has 83 in 134 for Barcelona.

    He is the top scorer for Poland.

    He averaged more than 40 goals (league and Europe) a season from 2015-2025, hitting 50+ twice.

    Comparing him to Castillo is nonsense beyond nonsense.

    Frankly comparing him to anyone other than Messi, Henry and, MAYBE Zlatan for MLS players is nonsense.
     
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  22. xtomx

    xtomx Moderator
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    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    He never read the magazine, I guess.
     
  23. overlap_old_coach

    Chicago Fire
    United States
    May 2, 2022
    Right…so WTF is this narrative?
    “We thought it had potential. Alas, we never actually get to see it on the field but it was good in concept.”
     
  24. harrylee773

    harrylee773 Member+

    Palermo
    Jul 28, 2004
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Dude, I’ve seen the comments and posts about him, and I've also -far as I can tell- never seen him play before. I don’t need to research him specifically to know that there have been late in their career players that have come from Europe/elsewhere to MLS and flopped - it’s practically a meme at this point. Yes, there has been a recent run with greater success, but theres still an Insigne or two and it’s always a risk.

    And I’m not comparing him to Insegne, Castillo, or any other player mentioned - how could I? Ive never seen him play. I’m just pointing out theres no such thing as a sure thing and expressing a bit of shock and disappointment that we now have a know quantity, a proven MLS scorer, the literal best goal scorer in the league at this point and time based on goals scored, that is walking as what can only be interpreted as a result of this signing.

    I’m sure his ego can survive the absolute insult of some handsome jackass on BigSoccer not feeling 100% sure that he will be everything he has been previously and more in an immediate enough fashion to replace the best goal scorer in the league while we are in the middle of our best season in years. I hope he does, obviously, but it’s not guaranteed and again, it sucks to see Hugo, someone who left it all on the field, seemed a good locker room guy, and a fan favorite, out of the door at this crucial point in the season.
     
  25. Pennsylvania Dave

    Jul 31, 2012
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    I think we'd win more games if we switched to a 4-4-4-4. Am I outta line?
     
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