The Crew Television Thread

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  1. Psycho_Derek

    Psycho_Derek Member+

    Nov 18, 2005
    Yeah, since leaving England every year there was incremental progress in making it easier to support my home team - technology advancements and the proliferation of the internet and smart phones has made it almost impossible to not be able to follow a game live either by audio commentary or watching it.
     
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  2. kgilbert78

    kgilbert78 Member+

    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    United States
    Dec 28, 2006
    Cowlumbus, OH
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah, I got to see about 2/3rds of my team's games in the first half of the season this year. I could have seen more, I guess, but I do not like to do the questionable live feeds you can find on the net. Plus I often have to watch delayed anyway as we are often busy when the game is on live. But it sure has changed in the past 20+ years.
     
  3. stanger

    stanger BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 29, 2008
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not for fans of CCSC. We seem to be regressing.
     
  4. Tycon5

    Tycon5 Member

    Jun 26, 2000
    Columbus, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Lather, rinse, repeat...
     
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  5. Psycho_Derek

    Psycho_Derek Member+

    Nov 18, 2005
    I think by now we are all bald.
     
  6. Kyle Crew

    Kyle Crew Member+

    Feb 23, 2013
    Columbus, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The games will be free this year on espn 3. Get TB for $5 a month. Open it, click the on switch, and watch the games live.

    I get why some dont wanna pay $70 for mls live, but that excuse doesnt exist now.
     
  7. Lucky Day

    Lucky Day Member+

    Nov 12, 2008
    Columbus
    That's the expectation, but have they announced or laid all of these details out yet? I haven't seen anything since the contract was signed last year.
     
  8. LordRobin

    LordRobin Member+

    Sep 1, 2006
    Akron, OH
    Club:
    Cleveland C. S.
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I live in Akron, so this wouldn't help me one bit, unless you think an Akron or Cleveland station would pick up the games. I don't.

    Are you sure about MLS Live being there this season? That article was from last May. It said that MLS Live "may" still exist in 2015. We haven't heard anything to that effect, and worryingly, they recently updated their mobile apps which now no longer include MLS Live.

    There are rumors that ESPN is going to work with MLS Live so that the two can co-exist, but right now, it's just rumors.

    ------RM
     
  9. MLSinCleveland

    MLSinCleveland Member+

    Oct 12, 2006
    Cleveland, Ohio
    Club:
    Cleveland C. S.
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I was thinking they could try to put together a TV network. Failing that, any areas outside where the games are on OTA would likely be considered outside the team's broadcast territory and able to take advantage of the ESPN3/MLS Live/Direct Kick option.
     
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  10. Psycho_Derek

    Psycho_Derek Member+

    Nov 18, 2005
    Paying $5 a month vs $70 a year? You could get a couple of lattes with the change.
     
  11. Draghignazzo

    Draghignazzo Member+

    Feb 24, 2007
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Isn't that all we do here?
     
  12. NewEnglandClamChowder

    Jul 28, 2012
    The Eyetalian Village, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Wait... am I reading this correctly?

    MM (and later AP) stated 2 main reasons for wanting to switch providers, iirc: 1) Additional content (pre- and post-game, plus in-week shows), and 2) They were tired of the Crew getting bumped.

    So, if the above is correct, TWC didn't give a shit enough to get alt channels up and running, so the Crew gets pissed and... gives them the entirety of the contract?
     
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  13. kgilbert78

    kgilbert78 Member+

    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    United States
    Dec 28, 2006
    Cowlumbus, OH
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No matter what choice is made, there were always going to be people affected negatively by it. If you want a statewide footprint, OTA doesn't cut it. There are a lot more major markets you have to put together outside Columbus--the same is not true in Utah. All it takes is one market to say "nah" and you don't have state wide coverage. I think that there are at least 6-8 separate OTA markets in Ohio--maybe more. But if you choose a cable network, you get what we got with TWC (or ONN back in the day). Or you choose FSO, and the other teams take precedence. Just as happened the other night when the Jackets were preempted by the Cavs on FSO Cleveland--and not every market in Ohio will offer (or can offer in some cases) alternate channels. This was never a choice between good and bad but between sucky and less sucky. The only way out of it would be if your owner controlled the tv market(s) in some way.
     
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  14. Kryptonite

    Kryptonite BS XXV

    Apr 10, 1999
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I also remember that game. That was back when FSW was too cheap to send their own camera crews and their only show that involved their own cameras was the Friday night phone-in show. Things really looked bad when they would piggyback off the HDNet feed. A unedited, unaltered 16x9 feed on a 4x3 TV with the HDNet graphics that were pushed partially off the side of the screen...ugh.

    Yeah, that game though...SMH and facepalm.
     
  15. NewEnglandClamChowder

    Jul 28, 2012
    The Eyetalian Village, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    This is entirely valid, and actually has me hopeful that there could be a bigger picture in play (although, given that it was MM in charge, I honestly doubt it).

    The Crew gets tired of absolute crap deals from FSO, not just financially but in terms of priority and additional content. They talk about going to TWCSN, FSO assumes it's a bluff (or just doesn't care) and doesn't budge. Crew realizes actually signing a deal with TWCSN is the only thing that would open up any space in negotiations with FSO in the future, so they do. Fans get pissed in the short-term, but it leads to longer-term gains.

    Still doesn't explain why MM couldn't get any kind of online streaming exception, other than that he was an incompetent wanker.
     
  16. kgilbert78

    kgilbert78 Member+

    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    United States
    Dec 28, 2006
    Cowlumbus, OH
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    TWC and FSO are competitors. I can see why setting up alternate channles for a competitor would not be a high business priority. I don't think that's the best business sense, though, as most consumers will not parse that.
     
  17. Kryptonite

    Kryptonite BS XXV

    Apr 10, 1999
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #2917 Kryptonite, Jan 27, 2015
    Last edited: Jan 27, 2015
    Ding. WWHO-53 OR whatever-the-heck the out-of-market package is if WWHO isn't an option.

    Heck, a WSYX 6.2 subchannel would be awesome. I think Philadelphia had their games on a subchannel. Besides, do those subchannels actually show anything of importance?
     
  18. Kryptonite

    Kryptonite BS XXV

    Apr 10, 1999
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah, that doesn't make sense. They were being hosed by Time Warner (only in some areas, as it seemed like the Dayton area was consistently the worst and others had mixed results), so the screwee gives the contract to the screwer? Huh?


    TWC is not FSO. TWCSN or TWCSC or whatever it is would be the competitor. It would be like Gmail (TWCSN) vs Google (TWC) and Yahoo Mail (FSO.)

    It's always something with Time Warner though...first, they didn't want to set up the space for ONN, as they claimed they were "full" and now this. How is it that DirecTV or U-Verse or whatever else can add new content, but TW can't seem to?
     
  19. Draghignazzo

    Draghignazzo Member+

    Feb 24, 2007
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    That is correct. I pointed this out during the original WTF?!-TWC-DEAL-SUX discussions.
     
  20. kgilbert78

    kgilbert78 Member+

    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    United States
    Dec 28, 2006
    Cowlumbus, OH
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's fine for Columbus. I'd have no problem with that personally. But when you are trying to get a statewide footprint (and I think they are right about that), in Ohio you have to negotiate with a lot of entities as there are multiple markets. And there's no guarentee that one of those markets won't pre-empt. Or even consider showing your product in the first place. So you get Columbus--but no Akron or Cleveland. Cleveland and Cincy at least consider themselves to be bigger markets than Columbus and are not as interested in what goes on down here. Philly's different. In that market, you are competing not with yourself but with two other MLS teams. There wouldn't be statewide coverage needed (Western PA fans would be far more likely to come to Columbus as it is closer) and your market is far more compact. A single station with maybe an affiliate in Lancaster and Allentown covers your real market just fine. And you are probably ok without the affiliates--in that market. It's likely the cable systems have the Philly OTA stations anyway. Ohio isn't that kind of market.

    And I will make one point. The Crew have tried *all* of these scenarios. They *all* fail to one extent or another. That's reality. Wishing won't make it go away.
     
  21. patricksp

    patricksp 91.9 Crew Fan Rating

    Nov 4, 2007
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    MLSLive will still be around but only for Canada, I for one will miss it. I really liked the fact that it archived the games and I could watch them later or start a game at the beginning or watch it live.

    Does anybody know if you get Direct Kick can you watch the Crew games with the new FCC ruling on black outs?
     
  22. Kyle Crew

    Kyle Crew Member+

    Feb 23, 2013
    Columbus, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Unless you use tb...
     
  23. Draghignazzo

    Draghignazzo Member+

    Feb 24, 2007
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Do tell...
     
  24. Lucky Day

    Lucky Day Member+

    Nov 12, 2008
    Columbus
    The FCC blackout rules were only changed in relation to a team blacking out a game if the game isn't sold out, and only applies to their exception of the NFL's policy.

    There will be no changes to the TWC blackouts.

    http://www.fcc.gov/document/fcc-eliminates-sports-blackout-rules
     

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