The Court of Arbitrary Arbitration - Random Facts, Thoughts, Etc.

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  1. Holy__Joe

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    Mar 31, 2007
    Manchester
    Club:
    Sporting CP Lisbon
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    #2601 Holy__Joe, Oct 28, 2024
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    Amorim is the compete opposite of ETH in that sense, potentially it's his age (about week older than Ronald), or his lack of years as a manager keeping him less removed from the players but he's definitely someone who seems more connected with his players. He projects confidence and his players buy into it, as opposed to ETH where from the outside at least you never felt like he was confident in himself or felt he had a buy in from those around him.



    I think his flexibility comes from the fact that as a manager he's still learning really, when we paid his buy out clause at Braga he'd only managed 13 first team matches (promoted from B team manager where he had a further 11....)

    After we won the league with his enjoyable 3-3-3 approach in 20/21 winning the league, then trying to do the same the next season finishing second, in the 22/23 season he really got found out and teams had adapted to us leading to a big drop down to 4th. He then made fair few changes and made the commitment that if he didn't win the league again he'd leave the club (though he won it).


    I'd say one of the big big concerns is that he has the ideas, but Sporting under Viana and the scouts had a great recruitment system in place to get the players to play his systems. Even after key players were sold (Mendes, Palninha, Mendes, Nunes, Porro, Ugarte, etc) or we didn't get our first choices (we really wanted Leonidas for example this season, but they managed to get an interesting second choice so far in Harder). Though he has been very good at working youth from the academy into the team (we had a bit of a draught of this sadly circa the 2010s)

    Sporting had a really great project going on, which so far has us having won every league match and on 7 out of 9 in the EL. I think Amorim has been a key part of that, but I don't think he's done it on his own, and I don't think he'll be given the time or the support needed to build a project up.

    Also looking at our squad, and thinking "who could directly sub into a normal Sporting formation right now" the only natural fits really are

    Ugarte (obviously....he's played as the deeper CM for him before)
    Garnacho playing in Trincao's role as the right CAM/RW type hybrid, though he'd need to learn to be put in crosses rather than always shooting
    Mainoo in the Braganca/Morita CM role as the more box to box driving type
    Bruno could play Pote's role as left CAM
    Martinez could LCB similar to when Reis plays there
    De Light could play one of the other two CB positions
    Mount MAYBE could play a Pote (unappreciated club legend btw) type role? But I've forgotten if Mount's actually as shit as I remember him he plays so little
    Eriksen could play backup to Mainoo
    Diallo could potentially fit the Trincao role too

    Maybes
    Dalot is a question mark, as our RWB role (except for when Esgaio is playing, he's like our Maguire) has always been a very attacking position, Quenda, Geny, Porro. All very explosively pacy attacking minded.
    Hojlund really don't see where he'd fit in other than coming off the bench when switching to 2 strikers needing a late goal (like Paulinho did so well last season)

    Leaves a bunch of gaps though and a huge one needing 3 CBS with 1 always being left footed, a left back in the Valencia or Ashley Young style.

    Gyokeres shaped hole - I don't know how we'd fill this with the current squad, none of our stikers are close to in his mould, or can do what he does time and time again every match. I know youtube highlights are a joke, but he's the sort of player that gets you off your seat and his play enables so many around him.

    I genuinely can't see Amorim going to a team and not insisting on bringing him with him.

    All 45 of his goals.....from last season


    and one that shows what he does when he's not just putting the ball in the net
     
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  2. Sofabloke

    Sofabloke Member+

    Dec 24, 2003
    Mu
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    A few places running with this story - essentially saying that Amorim will stay until international break (game tomorrow, next week CL game with City and Braga game on 10th November).

    So would mean Ruud manages next three games (Chelsea, PAOK, Leicester again) then Amorim takes over from Ipswich game onwards (24th November).

    Some of the other sources saying we have reached a compromise on the €5m they were asking on top of the €10m release fee and will be announced tomorrow.

    We shall see ...

     
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  3. Sofabloke

    Sofabloke Member+

    Dec 24, 2003
    Mu
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Missed this when it came out - the media department actually did a good vid!

    If you have been to OT that guitar riff gives you goosebumps :)

     
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  4. Sofabloke

    Sofabloke Member+

    Dec 24, 2003
    Mu
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Seasons greetings everyone.

    Christmas Group Therapy seems appropriate :)

    I am a Man Utd supporter and my team is in the bottom half of the table at Christmas for the first time since 1989 :eek::eek::eek::eek:o_Oo_Oo_Oo_Oo_Oo_O;);)

    [​IMG]
     
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  5. Ruud v.Nistelrooy 10

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    Jamaica
    Jun 4, 2006
    The Temple Of Trax
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Jamaica
    i'm here at work and that Rúben Amorim song from the weekend is stuck in my head.

    but not in a bad way. it's certainly catchy
     
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  6. CybrSlydr

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    Jun 30, 2013
    Casper, WY
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    Columbus Crew
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    They sang that song for like a half freaking hour straight.
     
  7. Ruud v.Nistelrooy 10

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    Jamaica
    Jun 4, 2006
    The Temple Of Trax
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    Manchester United FC
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    Jamaica
  8. SF19

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    Jun 8, 2013
    That needed Benny Hill music.
     
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  9. Ruud v.Nistelrooy 10

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    Jamaica
    Jun 4, 2006
    The Temple Of Trax
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    Manchester United FC
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    Jamaica
  10. Ruud v.Nistelrooy 10

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    Jamaica
    Jun 4, 2006
    The Temple Of Trax
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Jamaica
    so i watched the chess at the esports world cup. now, i am well aware of the brownwashing, sportwashing, human treatment, gaming ecosystem concerns etc. about the Saudis but objectively they've put on a fantastic show.

    the lights, the totem, the keys, the arenas and ceremony - cannot deny it was extremely well done. great spectacle.

    if only it was free of controversy
     
  11. J'can

    J'can Member+

    Jul 3, 2007
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Some good football content on YouTube.

    The overlap has Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink

    Rio presents had Micheal Owen which was surprisingly good

    Loving Theo walcott on overlap us

    Good stuff this week
     
  12. Ruud v.Nistelrooy 10

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    Jamaica
    Jun 4, 2006
    The Temple Of Trax
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Jamaica
    the Owen one was surprising
     
  13. J'can

    J'can Member+

    Jul 3, 2007
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    It was. I actually enjoyed it

    Also Check out The Athletic - Louis Saha.
     
  14. benni...

    benni... BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 23, 2004
    Chocolate City
    Is that an article or a podcast?
     
  15. J'can

    J'can Member+

    Jul 3, 2007
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    Podcast on yt

     
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  16. Sofabloke

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    Dec 24, 2003
    Mu
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  17. Ruud v.Nistelrooy 10

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    Jamaica
    Jun 4, 2006
    The Temple Of Trax
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Jamaica
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  18. benni...

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    Nov 23, 2004
    Chocolate City
  19. Ruud v.Nistelrooy 10

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    Jamaica
    Jun 4, 2006
    The Temple Of Trax
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    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Jamaica
  20. Sofabloke

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    Dec 24, 2003
    Mu
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Ironic - when he is part of our club having been coloninized and drained of resources for a couple of decades ..
     
  21. benni...

    benni... BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 23, 2004
    Chocolate City
    These are conversations this forum isnt ready for.

    Our previos discussions regarding race and gender wars etc....

    But this is highly disappointing, but not surprising. This is the world we live in.
     
  22. Ruud v.Nistelrooy 10

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    Jamaica
    Jun 4, 2006
    The Temple Of Trax
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    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Jamaica
    i guess this makes him one of the angry, white man Gary Neville was referring to
     
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  23. Anonymous_United

    Manchester United
    Brazil
    Jul 13, 2018
    The day Africa is able to stands on its feet Europe will collapse. Centuries of systematic theft and regime changes to loot it's natural resources. Shitty comments by SJR.
     
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  24. Ruud v.Nistelrooy 10

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    Jamaica
    Jun 4, 2006
    The Temple Of Trax
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Jamaica
    apparently the FA are looking into Ratcliffe's comments, he may have broken one of their rules.

    feels like an overreach to me but we'll see what happens
     
  25. benni...

    benni... BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 23, 2004
    Chocolate City

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