Per the athletic: Big Ten contemplating conference only schedule for football, women’s soccer and all fall sports ...seems like writing is on the wall for woso to be at least delayed
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nc...ence-games/ar-BB16y0ui?ocid=spartan-ntp-feeds "“As we continue to focus on how to play this season in a safe and responsible way, based on the best advice of medical experts, we are also prepared not to play in order to ensure the health, safety and wellness of our student-athletes should the circumstances so dictate,” the league said." "“By limiting competition to other Big Ten institutions, the conference will have the greatest flexibility to adjust its own operations throughout the season and make quick decisions in real-time based on the most current evolving medical advice and the fluid nature of the pandemic,” the Big Ten said."
I think they would be willing to move football to spring but I don’t think they would move other sports. Feel like if women’s soccer doesn’t play in the fall then it just wont have a season until fall 2021
That’s a Title IX lawsuit waiting to happen if you move one male sport and don’t provide an equal opportunity for female sports, or am I way off there? I think if we are talking about opportunity you could make the argument.
It wont be a lawsuit. As long as they don’t pull the scholarships which they wont. Especially because they will cancel men’s soccer season which is what would be the equivalent.
maybe not a lawsuit, and maybe no one would sue, but I think that’s a NCAA violation if you only allow one fall sport (a male sport) to play and no female sports. That’s not equal opportunity by any conference or the NCAA. I would say there’s some hope for women’s soccer in 20-21 still because of this but I could be way wrong or off, and maybe my logic isn’t sound.
I disagree with this entirely. If they allow some men to play and no women to play it can easily be a legal issue. Besides, not every school offers men's soccer. So it is a university specific issue as well. If a school cancels women's volleyball and women's soccer but lets its football team play, that is a major issue. Those are the three main fall sports at many institutions (that don't have men's soccer).
If you think the NCAA will do what is ethical or makes sense then you definitely don’t know the NCAA. They are after one thing and one thing only. . . $$$$$ they will cancel women’s soccer in a heart beat and move football to the spring if that’s the only option and not lose a second of sleep over it.
First, Football has to be the highest risk sport in terms of physical non-distancing and the potential to spread a contagious virus. (okay maybe wrestling is tops) If football is being played, other sports are being played. Second, the facilities crunch will be legit in the Spring but it means every team trains a bit less, plays less games, but it could be worked out. It may lead to more sports being dropped for budget reasons, but all changes should be made with an eye on gender equity. Third, the teams that get to play may just be the ones who don't have major outbreaks! Just like we see in MLS. When a team has an outbreak, they quarantine and may shut down. Maybe schools or entire conferences in areas with lots of virus at the wrong time don't get to play (like League1 in France). Disciplined teams in lower virus areas maybe do get to play (Bundesliga). Maybe it's time to teach your kids tennis or golf if they want to be athletes (or auto racing, cliff diving, or other low contact sports). Lastly, its also true some schools have already or will come to realize, they aren't playing this year at all. But waiting and delaying keeps students enrolled and paying tuition and connected to the school, and less time for pissed off alumni to rage, sponsors to defect, etc. Will be interesting to see if there are actually transfers to more rural areas or where there is less virus if some teams can get playing. ps- someone somewhat famous in college sports, like a P5 FB coach, getting really sick could just shut it all down, really any day.
Apparently you do not know how expensive Title IX lawsuits are. And, if you do not think equality and civil rights are not at the forefront of issues in America right now, then you are living under a rock. It would cost the NCAA millions in a lawsuit if they discriminated against the women.
Eddie K, if there is consideration of Fall sports moving to the Spring, one thing that will be a factor will be having to manage locker room facilities in a CV-19 environment. That is something that will be difficult enough with the sports from one season going on. When they start putting two seasons worth of sports going on at the same time, the problem will become even more difficult. This will be part of the calculation that will go on in determining whether to do it.
I see a lot of English student on alert because of the latest ICE restriction for foreign students. Does this rule apply to those players actually?
Unfortunately, yes. However, I know many schools will find ways to work around it. They're already addressing plans with SAs.
I've long thought that this country's response to COVID19 would have been much different had someone famous died from the disease. I mean, look at the grief and angst over Kobe's death. Pep Guardiola's mom, John Prine, some 4th degree royal from Spain. They're not going to move the needle. Nick Saban, on the other hand, now that would have repercussions...
D1 football will not be played in spring 21 and then come back in june to prepare for fall 21/august games.
I have no knowledge of what the BCS schools are planning, but for the D1 FCS football schools as well as for other NCAA Fall sports that come under the NCAA jurisdiction, the plan so far is that if they get halted in mid-Fall and must go to later in the school year to complete their seasons and have NCAA championships, that is what they will do. This will not occur only if the delay is so long that it would have to extend into the 2021-22 season, which they will not do.
IYou’re right, maybe they wouldn’t come back in June, but the rest of it is totally on the table. Even if they play games in spring 2021, they absolutely would try and play a regular, full football schedule in fall 2021. What you’d see is a lot of draft-eligible and draft-probable juniors/seniors sit out this spring and prepare for NFL, and reduced spring schedules, but you absolutely could see football played until April/May and then played again in September.
The PAC 12 just joined the B1G in announcing in-conference only for all fall sports. which wipes out the non-conference season for a host of teams in the West.
I was looking forward to Florida versus Duke in just a couple of weeks. Any chance that some exhibitions will still happen? How do you just tune up to play in the Big Ten? All the people making comparisons to professional leagues need to stop and just realize one thing. Nobody is going to charter flights... flying commercial is a risk to teams. I think the Fall NCAA tourney won't happen and any games this season may be regional in nature.
I don't think there will be any exhibitions. One of the issues is that different conferences have different rules and some other team coming may not have been held to the same precautions as the other. And the seasons themselves may be way more interesting, since as you say, there won't be creampuffs to tune up on. Each team is starting out cold in the conference, which makes every game even more important. It'll be up to the teams to come out of the gate running. Which is, of course, easier said than done.
Football will dictate what everyone does. If football plays then others will play. There is no way way they will let football play and tell women’s soccer they can’t. Good luck in court with that battle. As dumb as the NCAA is they are not that dumb.
I do not see why posters are talking about Title IX and the NCAA. Title IX applies to the schools. They are the ones that might have problems, not the NCAA. As the Ivy League and the Big 10 and Pac 12 have made clear, the schools are the ones that are driving the decisions about who will play what sports, and in what format.