The Coming ‘Golden Generation’ Will Not Accomplish What the 2002 Team Accomplished

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  1. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    There are Gold Cups and gold cups. The Gold Cups qualified you for the Confederations Cup.

    Only the '91 and '07 count as Gold Cups we won. The rest were gold cups.
     
  2. An Unpaved Road

    An Unpaved Road Member+

    Mar 22, 2006
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    They’re all Gold Cups to me, and it’s not a great look we haven’t won back to back titles since 05-07. I hope to see a statement run in the next one.
     
  3. superdave

    superdave Member+

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    VB, VA
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    Nah, it’s the regional championship. The Euros didn’t lose any meaning with th end of the Confed Cup.
     
  4. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

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    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
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    It would if everyone fielded B teams.
     
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  5. psnotyours

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    Bvb
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    Mar 8, 2023
    Do yall think this is our Golden Generation
     
  6. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

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    Apr 18, 2015
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    Nope.
     
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  7. RossD

    RossD Member+

    Aug 17, 2013
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    Look at the Golden Generation for Belgium, they had world class players at top teams. Portugal 20+ years ago had the same. Golden Generation means the next generation will be weaker or not as good. Do guys seriously think our player pool 5-10 years from now will not be as good as it currently is? No way in hell.
    We keep calling this a Golden Generation because we finally have a large group of players getting into much higher profile teams than in the past. It's because the US is now churning out a higher volume of professionally trained players.
    Belgium and Portugal are pretty much running at 100% at developing players, whereas we still have a very long way to go to max out our capacity.
     
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  8. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

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    A golden generation has to include at least one world class player. A current US best eleven has none.
     
  9. psnotyours

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    Bvb
    United States
    Mar 8, 2023
    I don't think this is our golden generation because of the amount of talent coming from the 06s down to the 09s.
    Most people who are saying this are fans of Mexico. This is 10000% Canada's golden generation because I don't see the next Davies or David.
    Not always does a golden generation have a world-class player. Chile
     
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  10. RossD

    RossD Member+

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    Vidal and Sanchez were world class to me.
     
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  11. IndividualEleven

    Mar 16, 2006
    Not all regional championships are equal.
     
  12. Khan

    Khan Member+

    Mar 16, 2000
    On the road
    Meh, what would Donovan's group have done if fat fvkc Arena gave half a shyte about recruiting dual nationals? [Just, say, add Rossi and Subotic to his group.]


    Now, take THIS group, and remove most of the dual nationals, and then tell us if this is still considered a [snicker] "golden generation?"
     
  13. Master O

    Master O Member+

    Jul 7, 2006
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    Soccer in the USA also has at least three other major professional sports to surpass in order to get access to the elite athletes who play in the NFL and NBA.
     
  14. NietzscheIsDead

    NietzscheIsDead Member+

    NO WAR
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    May 31, 2019
    NO WAR
    In the days of yore, the American mentality and collective belief made up for the fact that we had a talent disparity.

    That is no longer true.

    The American mentality is now a liability and puts us at a disadvantage against most other teams.
     
  15. The Clientele

    The Clientele Member+

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    Jun 25, 2005
    Portland, Oregon
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    No. Better club pedigree, but not a Golden Generation for the USMNT.
     
  16. NietzscheIsDead

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    May 31, 2019
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    I don’t think that’s true.

    Weston McKennie, Yunus Musah, Johnny Cardoso, Walker Zimmerman, Haji Wright, Josh Sargent, Ricardo Pepi, Jedi Robinson, Chris Richards, Joe Scally, Matt Turner…these are all guys who would be capable in several other pro sports.
     
  17. The Clientele

    The Clientele Member+

    Portland Timbers
    Jun 25, 2005
    Portland, Oregon
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    It just feels like many other countries play harder, with more passion, than the current USMNT…
     
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  18. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

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    #1293 Paul Berry, Sep 17, 2024
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    Davies will still be playing for Canada in 2036. Plenty of time to develop the next star.

    Alexis Sanchez was in The Guardian's top ten for multiple seasons and Arturo Vidal was number 32 in 2016. I don't think Pulisic has been higher than #60.
     
  19. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

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    What is the current USMNT? When was the last time our best 11 played together? There was plenty of passion against Mexico and Canada in the NL a year ago and they fought pretty damn hard in the group stage in Qatar.
     
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  20. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

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    I don't think any but Weston McKennie had an option to play other sports and McKennie got the soccer bug living in Germany. Turner switched to soccer at 14 presumably because he wasn't good enough at anything else.
     
  21. psnotyours

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    Bvb
    United States
    Mar 8, 2023
    Davies will be 36 years old. Could Davies make it to the 2036 WC, yes but he will not have a big impact because he relies on speed.
    Those players were elite but not world-class players
     
  22. psnotyours

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    Bvb
    United States
    Mar 8, 2023
    It's 50/50. There are still people who choose to play other sports rather than soccer. Damion Downs choose soccer over American Football. Kaedren Spivey dad was a defensive back for Bowling Green. He also liked American Football but chose soccer.
    I can't remember his name but there was a person that chose BaseBall over soccer not too long ago.
    The biggest issue now is that MLS teams don't do their due diligence and develop players
     
  23. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

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    In your opinion.

    Damn site better than any US outfield player ever.
     
  24. NietzscheIsDead

    NietzscheIsDead Member+

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    Turner is a good multi-sport athlete who is a good keeper because he is just a good overall athlete. He played keeper late and transitioned easily because he is an exceptional athlete.

    There are many who choose soccer here over other sports now. Its much more common that it used to be now that there’s a path to the pros.
     
  25. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

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    It is but the vast majority of Dads are going to take their kids to Little League, put a hoop up in the driveway or buy helmets and pads and that's only gradually going to change as a more soccer savvy generation spawns.

    The biggest boost to domestic soccer would be to produce a player or two that the rest of the world is jealous of.
     
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