The Cities Thread

Discussion in 'Politics & Current Events' started by That Phat Hat, Sep 12, 2012.

  1. ToMhIlL

    ToMhIlL Member+

    Feb 18, 1999
    Boxborough, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Is that really such a bad thing if more (affordable?) housing is being built? I'm not crazy about the design with the enclosed shared back yards, and those people will shop at Costco for the convenience, but it's not like they are building these ugly McMansions on 1/4 acre lots.
     
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  2. Dominican Lou

    Dominican Lou Member+

    Nov 27, 2004
    1936 Catalonia
    Yeah, people complain too much.

    The reality is, if we need to build more housing in big cities, that inevitably means greater density, which inevitably means smaller units. It also means narrower streets, more cars, things like shared back yards, less privacy, etc.

    This massive thing looks like a prison. So what? Prisons house lots of people in small spaces.
     
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  3. The Devil's Architect

    Feb 10, 2000
    The American Steppe
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If you think this looks like a prison, you probably have a severe and persistent mental disability
     
  4. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Maybe a Scandinavian prison, I hear they are nice
     
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  5. Auriaprottu

    Auriaprottu Member+

    Atlanta Damn United
    Apr 1, 2002
    The back of the bus
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Repped for this. Bigger houses need bigger lots and more space between them. I cannot for the life of me understand why people develop neighborhoods that way. Build fewer homes on larger lots and charge more.
     
  6. The Devil's Architect

    Feb 10, 2000
    The American Steppe
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Because developers run a super-tight margin on selling at cost per squarefoot
     
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  7. Kazuma

    Kazuma Member+

    Chelsea
    Jul 30, 2007
    Detroit
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Related but Trump made a comment about Milwaukee being a horrible city. The same Milwaukee where the GOP convention is being hosted this year.

    Nobody hates cities more than conservatives, but nobody loves big city amenities more than conservatives either.

    That said, Milwaukee isn't bad. Speaking from being there 18 years ago, but it was alright.
     
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  8. Kazuma

    Kazuma Member+

    Chelsea
    Jul 30, 2007
    Detroit
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Oh, and kudos to the Milwaukee mayor.

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  9. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    As Bill Maher would say, 'not too different from college campuses, albeit with a bit less antisemitism'.
     
  10. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    Trump has no taste in cities or locations in general. He has his own plane yet spends 95% of his time in either NJ or FLA - two states hovering just outside the top 45 in overall appeal.

    I didn't catch the "Milwaukee is horrible" comment but by any chance was it followed by "I'm gonna make it great again" ? :rolleyes:
     
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  11. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Chicago and New York, the only real cities in the USA


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  12. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

    May 2, 2001
    The Electric City
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Gee, why would California go light on Skyscrapers. . .
     
  13. rslfanboy

    rslfanboy Member+

    Jul 24, 2007
    Section 26
    I think that sky scrapers in such a tectonically active area on the West Coast might not be such a great idea?
     
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  14. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

    May 2, 2001
    The Electric City
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    I mean, I can see why Texas doesn't go in for skyscrapers . . if I lived in Texas, I'd go all-in on the sprawl. That would make it easier to be as far away from Texans as possible.
     
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  15. song219

    song219 BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 5, 2004
    La Norte
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Vanuatu
    I’m curious as to how they define skyscraper. As for VA having only one, I’d say that Arlington Cty VA has more than one, enough to make the landing or takeoff from National difficult. As for MD, I’d venture that Baltimore has more than 3.
     
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  16. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    I don't get the second post. Isn't that still 2 cities more* than all of Europe?

    * if for whatever reason we are defining a "city" as having a lot of skyscrapers
     
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  17. cliche_guevara

    cliche_guevara Member+

    Jun 1, 2004
    San Francisco, CA
    Right. I mean, SF is the second most densely populated city in the US. You don't get like that by living in single family homes or by building strip malls.
     
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  18. raza_rebel

    raza_rebel Member+

    Dec 11, 2000
    Club:
    Univ de Chile
    Also the Height of Buildings Act of 1910 limits the building heights in DC -- as not to overshadow the Capitol Building and the Washington Monument. I heard something last year where Mayor Muriel Bowser asked the city council to raise it due to housing issues.
     
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  19. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    150 meters which is about 500 feet.
     
  20. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yes

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  21. soccernutter

    soccernutter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Tottenham Hotspur
    Aug 22, 2001
    Near the mountains.
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So, there has been a study here in Denver to see how just giving cash, no strings attached, to the unhoused would effect their lives. For us here in this corner of the world, it is probably about what you expect, but puts a good argument against those saying "no" to giving cash to the unhoused. I've talked about his before, and here is a 10 month update.

    https://coloradosun.com/2024/06/19/homeless-payments/

    More than 800 people were selected to participate in the Denver Basic Income Project while they were living on the streets, in shelters, on friends’ couches or in vehicles. They were separated into three groups. Group A received $1,000 per month for a year. Group B received $6,500 the first month and $500 for the next 11 months. And group C, the control group, received $50 per month.

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    Among the other interesting findings:
    • There was no statistical difference in people’s reported use of illegal drugs. On average, people reported using illegal substances somewhere between zero and four times per month, both at the start and the end of the study.
    • Stress and anxiety levels reported by participants were slightly higher at the end of the study compared to the start, though researchers speculated that participants likely were worried about the end of payments.
    • Parents of kids under 18, however, reported statistically significant improvements in “parental distress” after receiving money for 10 months.
    They are trying to get more funding to lengthen the study.
     
  22. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Supply side economics at work.

    "There are 12 U.S. markets where Class C rents are falling at least 6% YoY. What is the common denominator? You guessed it: Supply. All 12 have supply expansion rates ABOVE the U.S. average."


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    His bio.

    @jayparsons

    'Rental housing economist, Dad x5 and suffering Cowboys fan ... Rental housing is essential, misunderstood and we need more of it.'
     
  23. rslfanboy

    rslfanboy Member+

    Jul 24, 2007
    Section 26
    It is pretty mindblowing how many 3-6 story condo/apartment complexes are popping up all over just outside of downtown SLC. The suburbs are still NIMBYing super hard, but even the town and city centers are blazing through the opposition.
     
  24. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So the NYC congestion charges are creating all kinds of discussions.

    An interesting one is how some people want to argue that people should use public transit and stop driving (a very good idea).

    Some people argue back that the subways are not safe (even when they are way safer than driving) and give examples of this, but the answer from some members of the woke left is to tell them, svck it up or move to the suburbs.

    https://www.cartoonshateher.com/p/subways-are-for-babies

    The thing, if we want more people to use public transit, it has to be cleaner, safer, more dependable than what it currently is.

    The idea that subways are a safe space for criminals, mentally ill people and the homeless needs to change.

    We on the left look at public transit in Japan and bitch that why doesn't our governments build that for us, but at the same time we bitch when governments try to enforce behavioral rules like they have in Japan. (I know different cultures and we do have way more freedoms in America, like the freedom to be assholes).

    But we have to find a way where families can use public transit in a somewhat safe way.

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  25. The Devil's Architect

    Feb 10, 2000
    The American Steppe
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Huh?

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