The Cities Thread

Discussion in 'Politics & Current Events' started by That Phat Hat, Sep 12, 2012.

  1. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This guy is a very conservative Republican Governor.

    But here he is right in this specific topic, Democratic Mayors should think like this in this specific topic. Now I think he is making a libertarian pint that people should be able to build what ever then want in their property, Houston style, that is not going to fly with democrats, but the lesson should be more about moving away from car mentality and to reduce the regulations that prohibit multi-unit housing and regulations that prohibit mixed used housing (business/housing mixed zones).


     
  2. Q*bert Jones III

    Q*bert Jones III The People's Poet

    Feb 12, 2005
    Woodstock, NY
    Club:
    DC United
    He's right but for all the wrong reasons.
     
  3. Kazuma

    Kazuma Member+

    Chelsea
    Jul 30, 2007
    Detroit
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    About 11 years ago, I was working in an office* based out of Detroit when I learned that the city was declaring bankruptcy. We didn't really talk much about it. Just hoped that things would get better.

    Now, 11 years later it's a different story. Detroit's credit rating is investment grade (And better than Chicago's), the NCAA Sweet 16 is here this weekend, then the NFL Draft next month, the Final Four in 2027, and of course, the usual events coming through here.

    Nothing stops Detroit as the song goes.

    https://www.detroitnews.com/story/n...decade-after-historic-bankruptcy/73092243007/

    *I miss that office. It was right next door to this book store, near a great sandwich place, and a fantastic record store.
     
  4. dapip

    dapip Member+

    Sep 5, 2003
    South Florida
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    How was our current city planning shaped?
    Interesting thread:

     
  5. Kazuma

    Kazuma Member+

    Chelsea
    Jul 30, 2007
    Detroit
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    A decent read about Detroit and its rep, especially with the NFL Draft, where 700,00 people total attended. My dad felt like a kid again with how crowded Hart Plaza was.

    There's a part in the article about people visiting Detroit and being shocked, I hear that a lot. But really I haven't had a problem at all, my mom on the other hand, different story. But I had a lot of fun going to Detroit as a city as a kid.

    One of the reasons I have my people stuck in the 80s theory is because of Detroit. There's people I meet who had never been and go off the movie Robocop. Or people I meet out of state who mention they left Detroit in 2004 and hadn't been back, or left in the early 90s. My old boss, who was from Lansing and lived in Colorado was like this. Usually people stop talking when I ask, "When was the last time you were there?"

    On a related note, the guy posing in front of the Joe Louis Fist is awesome.

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  6. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

    May 2, 2001
    The Electric City
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    I could see going there for the Institute of the Arts and the symphony. And there HAS to be a Motown Museum.
     
  7. Kazuma

    Kazuma Member+

    Chelsea
    Jul 30, 2007
    Detroit
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    The DIA is one of my favorite museums and I don't go enough. One of the best outside of NY. Kresge Court (See below) alone is a fantastic place to hang out, work, or study. Plus, the Diego Rivera mural, which is huge to say the least and just awe inspiring. My favorite painting in there is Cotopaxi by Frederic Edwin Church. It's also huge. The entrance hall, in the 2nd pic though, is breathtaking.

    And yes! There is a Motown Museum. That's also something I need to visit. And then there's The Henry Ford Museum in Dearborn, which is what I call a museum of what makes America awesome. Seeing Lincoln's chair, Presidential limos (Including Kennedy's), and a Bugatti Royale (Of which 7 exist) along with massive trains

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  8. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Last time I went to Detroit, many years ago, was for a USA vs Canada soccer game, I got a hotel on the Canada side of the border.

    Bad reputation I guess.
     
  9. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    Detroit's crime and murder rate used to be insanely high back in the 1970s and 80s. Without bothering to check, I'd be surprised if it wasn't at least 20 times higher than areas just across the river.

    So, that probably didn't help the city's appeal much.
     
  10. Kazuma

    Kazuma Member+

    Chelsea
    Jul 30, 2007
    Detroit
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    The 70s and 80s were just not a great period for cities in general. New York was the Purge in the 80s to quote Sgt Jeffords.
     
  11. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    Well yeah, but Detroit was still worse than most, IIRC. And when your crime rate is so much worse than a place right across the river, it makes that other place an attractive option.

    NY was/is still a white-collar city to a large extent despite people's efforts to make it seem like a tough place. lol
     
  12. ToMhIlL

    ToMhIlL Member+

    Feb 18, 1999
    Boxborough, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not if you consider that the "place right across the river" is in another country, that, among other things, has a lot fewer guns per capita due to stricter regulations.
     
  13. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  14. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    My immediate reaction is, when I think of nations that are immigrant friendly in terms of policy and practice, that’s the correlation.

    IOW how would the chart look if the correlation was to population growth rather than language.
     
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  15. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wouldn't population growth rate be more important?

    This is what Gemini tells me about immigration growth rates.

    It was not able to tell me about growth rates in selected EU countries, but it came back with;

     
  16. ToMhIlL

    ToMhIlL Member+

    Feb 18, 1999
    Boxborough, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Unscientific survey to be sure, but you can get a really nice, modern 2BR apartment (with a balcony, swimming pool, fitness center, etc.) in a high-rise building in the center city of Montreal for C$2,500/month (>$2k US).

    Try and see what you get for that kind of money in a big US city...
     
  17. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Austin continues to go hard on housing.

    Minnesota at state level and Austin at city level are giving Democrats a road map of what they should do.


     
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  18. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I was looking at a rent breakdown of Chicago a few weeks back.

    'You can get' a 2BR apartment in Chicago for 800 bucks, but there are very few and in "bad" neighborhoods.

    Less than 4% of all apartments in the city are less than 1,000 per month.

    52% on the other hand are above 2,000


    https://www.rentcafe.com/average-rent-market-trends/us/il/chicago/

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  19. Sounders78

    Sounders78 Member+

    Apr 20, 2009
    France
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    France
  20. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    86% of Seattle's apartments are above 1,500 per month. vs 75% in Chicago. Definitely more affordable over here.

    But compare us with Austin, Texas. 'Only' 55% of their apartments are above 1,500.


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  21. Sounders78

    Sounders78 Member+

    Apr 20, 2009
    France
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    France

    Well, they have to live in Texas, so we have to give them a break somewhere!
     
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  22. song219

    song219 BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 5, 2004
    La Norte
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Vanuatu
    Besides Austin gets to about a million degrees in the summer
     
  23. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Building anything in California is hard, but Costco found a loophole


     
  24. rslfanboy

    rslfanboy Member+

    Jul 24, 2007
    Section 26
    Was this actually built?
     
  25. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No but the approval will be much quicker.

    We will see how it ends up.
     

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