The Cavan Sullivan Thread

Discussion in 'Youth National Teams' started by Maximum Optimal, Apr 10, 2022.

  1. McKenniesWeah

    McKenniesWeah Member

    New England
    United States
    Feb 12, 2024
    missed the first 25min. He was trying to play the hero in the 1st half and kept shooting every chance he got. Most were on frame, nothing spectacular but still decent shots.

    2nd half he was somewhat invisible for awhile and then got his mojo back that’s continued into the 1st half of extra time. His burst of speed at 15yrs old is incredible; it’s only going to get better. He also linked up better with his teammates showing vision I wouldn’t expect until 19/20 from a good player.
     
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  2. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He acquitted himself quite well. Granted it is a USL-C team, that said, it's still grown professionals. He didn't look out of place and routinely got by defenders. Let's see if he can carry this performance over to MLS play.

    Just an FYI, Paramount + allows you to start the game from the beginning if you tune in late.
     
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  3. McKenniesWeah

    McKenniesWeah Member

    New England
    United States
    Feb 12, 2024
    Yea it’s still a step up from MLSNP. I don’t expect him to get a lot of minutes this Saturday, but I do expect him to see a 30+ min outing in one of their next 3 games given the congestion.
     
  4. Dynamo Kev

    Dynamo Kev Member+

    Oct 24, 2000
    He did well, should have scored one of those chances and caused Indy some problems. He was forced to play wider than usual and obviously wasn't given the pass to roam around- like with Union 2 or the youth teams. Indy were happy to sit back, even when down 1-0. Philly had issues creating quality chances -considering they had 33 shots. The lineup was very strange- with Vasquez playing left back, Rafanello playing DM, and Bedoya going the full 120. We'll see how they lineup for the Riverhounds in the next round.
     
  5. Thundering165

    Thundering165 Member+

    North Carolina FC
    United States
    May 1, 2017
    Raleigh
    At least as a pro, Sullivan tends to operate in more wide spaces than central ones. This is his heat map from 2025 so far:

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  6. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I would be very surprised if he plays at all on Saturday. Wednesday vs the Galaxy is more likely.
     
  7. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    Do you think that might be because of his age? Easier for a younger player to stick to the outside of the field where there’s less bodies and opportunities to get crunched.

    I think he’s relatively tough in his approach for his age, but that may just be what heat maps look like for mid teens #10’s in the pros?
     
  8. Thundering165

    Thundering165 Member+

    North Carolina FC
    United States
    May 1, 2017
    Raleigh
    Good question. My feeling is that his tendencies as a player. and his desire to take opponents on in particular, make it sensible for him to play more in the half spaces and wings where he can isolate defenders and make them make difficult choices.

    For comparison, here's Carrizo - obviously has the right side bias, especially in buildup, but much more involved in Zone 14:

    upload_2025-5-8_15-17-47.png

    And Santiago Morales, who operates on the left in buildup but very central in the final third:

    upload_2025-5-8_15-18-30.png
     
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  9. twoolley

    twoolley Member+

    Jan 3, 2008
    Who does occupy that space on the heat map for his team when he plays?
     
  10. Thundering165

    Thundering165 Member+

    North Carolina FC
    United States
    May 1, 2017
    Raleigh
    Vazquez, primarily
     
  11. twoolley

    twoolley Member+

    Jan 3, 2008
    got it. was curious to see if its at all related to formation/tactical guidance within the union structure or to your comment moreso due to his tendencies
     
  12. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If he was really Messi he would be in the top right, but alas he is merely in the top left...
     
  13. twoolley

    twoolley Member+

    Jan 3, 2008
    The x-axis is birth year
     
  14. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I am able to read graphs at an 8th grade level, it was a joke because of the meme that Messi is always in the top right in these things, and here he is only because it's based on age

    Bad news for Cavan is he can never catch Messi either
     
  15. Dynamo Kev

    Dynamo Kev Member+

    Oct 24, 2000
    Curtin had the first team and Union II playing a diamond midfield- Cavan was at the 10 (top of the diamond). Carnell has them playinga the empty bucket- or whatever it's called- with two 6s and the two 10s out wide (Cavan has a wider role now, which I don't think suits him as well). Vazquez has been playing the 6 for Union II, but he does get forward more than a typical 6 when in possession.
     
  16. twoolley

    twoolley Member+

    Jan 3, 2008
    Lol you never know around here. My bad!
     
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  17. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Union II played a 4-2-2-2 under LeBlanc last season.
     
  18. deejay

    deejay Member+

    Feb 14, 2000
    Tarpon Springs, FL
    Club:
    Jorge Wilstermann
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    This is more what I expect from a young player. For example, Tamal is very right sided. Sullivan's map is really quite unique and intriguing.
     
  19. Dynamo Kev

    Dynamo Kev Member+

    Oct 24, 2000
    No. Last year the first choice midfield for Union 2 was
    Cavan
    Olney- Vazquez
    Pariano

    Vazquez didn't play the double pivot until this year.
     
  20. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    During the latter half of last season and throughout the playoffs Union II played a 4-2-2-2
     
  21. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #2696 superdave, May 13, 2025
    Last edited: May 13, 2025
    DC fan here.

    If not for the risks of playing such a young player heavy minutes, he’d walk, and I mean walk, into our first XI. He’d be our best creative mid except for Peglow.
     
  22. McKenniesWeah

    McKenniesWeah Member

    New England
    United States
    Feb 12, 2024
    Got a short outing last night. Was technically involved in the goal with a “hopeful” overhead backwards kick, but wasn’t as effective as he was a week ago.
     
  23. glutton4Bolts

    glutton4Bolts Member+

    United States
    Mar 18, 2019
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I mean... you said it yourself.... it was a short cameo so he didn't have much time to make an impact..... but IMO he certainly deserves credit for the "hopeful" ball you mentioned. He had to juggle it once before putting it back into the mixer and he was under pressure. That goal is not scored w/o that two touch movement and it was the game-winner.... so I think he was effective enough.
     
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  24. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  25. Pegasus

    Pegasus Member+

    Apr 20, 1999
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's not a spectacular play but it's a heady play especially for one as young as he is. Most would have probably back passed and the team would have passed it around harmlessly.
     
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