The BigSoccer Science Thread volume 2

Discussion in 'Politics & Current Events' started by DoctorD, May 7, 2012.

  1. bigredfutbol

    bigredfutbol Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 5, 2000
    Woodbridge, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I grew up in rural Nebraska. I've seen how serious they are.

    You're comparing living in a sizable percentage of the entire continent of North America to playing Russian Roulette. I don't think you realize the scale of what you're talking about, or the actual odds involved.
     
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  2. song219

    song219 BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 5, 2004
    La Norte
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Vanuatu
    Yes. A good deal more Americans are killed by dogs each year than killed by tornados.
     
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  3. usscouse

    usscouse BigSoccer Supporter

    May 3, 2002
    Orygun coast
    I wasn’t talking about the whole of the United States. Why would I?
    I was talking about people who live in places where tornados are a regular occurrence. You’re getting a little carried away there.
    Yes I feel for these people who live through that. The media loves shots of people sitting in the rubble of their homes. Just me of course but I wouldn’t stay. I do realize some have been there for generations some have businesses there, but man! That’s hard.
     
  4. bigredfutbol

    bigredfutbol Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 5, 2000
    Woodbridge, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #829 bigredfutbol, May 4, 2022
    Last edited: May 4, 2022
    I could post a map of the continental USA, but QBert already did.

    EDIT: Just so you know, I'm not offended by your post, just baffled.
     
  5. usscouse

    usscouse BigSoccer Supporter

    May 3, 2002
    Orygun coast
    As I am with yours.

    But I’m off to Madrid right now to see who we meet in Paris.

    Not literally
     
  6. roby

    roby Member+

    SIRLOIN SALOON FC, PITTSFIELD MA
    Feb 27, 2005
    So Cal
    Another Mod trait! :whistling:
     
  7. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
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  8. song219

    song219 BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 5, 2004
    La Norte
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Vanuatu
    The dog number is right the tornado number I'm pretty sure is wrong. Your link wasn't clear but I believe you confused the number of tornado numbers with the death numbers.
     
  9. Sport Billy

    Sport Billy Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 25, 2006
    While you are correct, the notion that people not move to areas with tornados is truly stupefying.
    There are far more heat/cold deaths each year than tornados.

    Are we supposed to live in only moderate weather cities?
     
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  10. song219

    song219 BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 5, 2004
    La Norte
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Vanuatu
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  11. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    #836 xtomx, May 6, 2022
    Last edited: May 6, 2022
    Nope, the number of deaths is the third number on the list.

    I was totally it up by state (Texas-8, Mississippi-10, Alabama-6, Indiana-7, etc.).
    You are partially right, as I added incorrectly.
    The total is about 77, not 100. Still, a lot more than people killed by dogs.

    If you look at average number of tornadoes, the numbers would be off the chart
    Texas-137, Oklahoma-47, Nebraska-38, Dakotas (no need to for 2 Dakotas)-48, etc.

    Awesome. Much easier to read that the map I had (which was based on older data).
    So, it really depends by year.

    Tornado v. Dog?
    Tornado may be much higher in some years, but it may be lower in others.

    Thanks for the find
     
  12. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    I completely agree.
    People should not move to areas with tornados (Texas, Florida, Oklahoma, Dakotas, Nebraska, Iowa, etc.) as they are crappy places to live. ;)

    Let's ALL move to Hawa'ii. :thumbsup:
     
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  13. usscouse

    usscouse BigSoccer Supporter

    May 3, 2002
    Orygun coast
    #838 usscouse, May 6, 2022
    Last edited: May 6, 2022
    You say that like there’s something wrong with that. That’s one reason we moved where we are. The other is the beauty of the place. If you like beaches, lakes and woods and like to get out and enjoy it all. It fits us at our age.
    I lived in California in LAs beach City’s when I arrived. 30 something having fun and worked at LAX.
    Ten years was enough then moved to Park City Utah. Fantastic skiing, fantastic scenery and mountain hikes.
    Tired of the winters after a few years so we moved to WA State, an island in the Puget Sound. Where my time was spent sailboat cruising and racing.
    Now the Oregon coast!!

    Why in the hell would I want to live in Tornado Alley ( I never named it that) or in The Hurricane zone.

    I’ve mentioned that I lived in the British Isles. New Zealand and Australia.
    Then I have never been out of work, never claimed any unemployment benefits.

    I’m lucky enough to have lived a pretty long and happy life. You only get one.

    People in this country have choices. If they want to live in a tornado zone then that’s their choice and good luck to them. it’s not for me to argue with them or you.
    Stupefying to me as it is.
     
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  14. usscouse

    usscouse BigSoccer Supporter

    May 3, 2002
    Orygun coast
    That was on my list. But Mrs Scouse isn’t a sun worshiper. She breaks out in red itchy bumps. :)
    Love it to visit tho. In 78 with couple of friends we hiked the Kalalau Trail.
     
  15. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    I would have said "Hawa'ii...or the Northwest Coast," but I figured you and Mrs. Scouse like your privacy!
     
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  16. usscouse

    usscouse BigSoccer Supporter

    May 3, 2002
    Orygun coast
  17. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
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  18. usscouse

    usscouse BigSoccer Supporter

    May 3, 2002
    Orygun coast
    #843 usscouse, May 6, 2022
    Last edited: May 6, 2022
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  19. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Dogs vs tornados is a pretty pointless comparison, when 22 people are stomped to death by cows, over 100 are stung to death by bees and deer cause more than 200 fatal car accidents.

    Why are deer allowed to drive in the first place?
     
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  20. Sport Billy

    Sport Billy Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 25, 2006
    No, people do not have choices.
    It cost money to move. Money many do not have and it is not their fault they were born in an area.

    That being said, there are 300 million people in this country.
    If you take away areas with tornados, earthquakes, high heat, extreme cold, hurricanes, etc. there are few areas that are left for people. Land prices will skyrocket.

    Face it, your assertion may be the most dense line of thinking I've seen on BigSoccer and that is saying a lot.
     
  21. Sport Billy

    Sport Billy Moderator
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    May 25, 2006
     
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  22. usscouse

    usscouse BigSoccer Supporter

    May 3, 2002
    Orygun coast
    jesus. Are you stupid or or something. Or is it just your comprehension that sucks.
    If you think for one moment that I said everyone in a risk zone should get up and move then you are dense.
    My assertion was that I certainly wouldn’t dream of moving there and yes it does cost money to move. I’ve done it obviously more than once.

    wow! I’ve just notice that you’re a moderator. Holy cow!
     
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  23. song219

    song219 BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 5, 2004
    La Norte
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Vanuatu
    Why dear shouldn't you be allowed to drive?
     
  24. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    US Weather Deaths in 2020

    Rip current 82
    Tornado 76
    Extreme heat 51
    Fire Weather 45
    Flash flood 39
    Thunderstorm wind 36
    Tropical storm/hurricane 24
    Avalanche 23
    High Wind 19
    River flood 18
    Lightning strike 17
    Extreme cold 13
    Winter storm 6
    Coastal storm 5
    Mud slide 2
    Hail 1

    Other ways to die in America
    Earthquake: 57 fatalities in 1994
    Tsunami: 122 fatalities in 1964
    Volcano: 57 fatalities in 1980
     
  25. roby

    roby Member+

    SIRLOIN SALOON FC, PITTSFIELD MA
    Feb 27, 2005
    So Cal
    FYP! :mad:
     
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