The BigSoccer Brazilian Draft - Gauging interest.

Discussion in 'Brazil' started by Ombak, Feb 17, 2004.

  1. Ombak

    Ombak Moderator
    Staff Member

    Flamengo
    Apr 19, 1999
    Irvine, CA
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    I decided to start this thread to see if there's any interest in starting a Brazilian draft thread along the lines of the one in the USA forum:

    https://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=95297

    Shorter recap here:

    https://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=96427

    I would like to see if we couldn't get 10-12 teams going with some of the regulars on the Brazil forum and anyone else who wants to join in. If there's more interest than I expect, we can do 16 teams.

    These would be the rules/parameters:

    The objective is to draft a team as if you were managing a club in the Brasileirão for the next 3 years.

    You can draft any Brazilian national, regardless of where they play - Brazilians who play for other countries are of course ineligible. They must be on a professional team or reserve/junior team somewhere (no Beach Soccer or amateur players).

    We will establish a time-limit on each drafters turn based on user requests and the number of teams.

    There will be 25 rounds. Draft a squad of any amount of GKs, Ds, Ms and Fs you want.

    The draft order will not be as with the American draft - unless too many people dislike my idea. My proposal is for a random draft order in each round, with the last drafter of the previous round to begin the following round. eg:

    A - B - C - D - E - F
    F - D - A - B - C - E
    E - C - A - F - D - B and so on...

    Do not mention players who have not been drafted yet! Analysis of previous picks is accepted and encouraged. Pointing out players who are still left is not welcomed - yeah in the first round you'd better know everyone who's available and worth picking, but let's keep the rule from the beginning so in later rounds when someone is trying to find a backup left-back they don't get clues from the spectators.

    So, add your name to this thread, first-come, first-served, if you're interested in trying this here. Hopefully it'll take off.

    The draft begins as soon as all "Managers" are in and we agree on the time-limit and set a draft order.
     
  2. Ombak

    Ombak Moderator
    Staff Member

    Flamengo
    Apr 19, 1999
    Irvine, CA
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    0 interest so far, maybe a midday bump will help?
     
  3. ThrashBoy

    ThrashBoy New Member

    Aug 28, 2003
    Atlanta, GA
    **Interested**
     
  4. trmbrasil

    trmbrasil Member

    Mar 29, 2003
    Washington, DC
    Club:
    Bahia Salvador
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'll give it a shot...I can't do much worse than I'm doing with my fantasy NBA team.
     
  5. Ronaldo+10

    Ronaldo+10 New Member

    Aug 20, 2003
    Los Angeles
  6. Ombak

    Ombak Moderator
    Staff Member

    Flamengo
    Apr 19, 1999
    Irvine, CA
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    That makes four already and I'll give it an afternoon bump to see if anyone else picks up on this.
     
  7. Ombak

    Ombak Moderator
    Staff Member

    Flamengo
    Apr 19, 1999
    Irvine, CA
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Primetime Wednesday bump. After this I'm whoring this out to other fora. Yes I said fora.
     
  8. Alex_1

    Alex_1 Member

    Mar 29, 2002
    Zürich
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    Hmm.... okay, I will be in. :D I will have to make sure to have my drafts coordinated correctly!
     
  9. Ombak

    Ombak Moderator
    Staff Member

    Flamengo
    Apr 19, 1999
    Irvine, CA
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    There we go, now I feel like I can open this up to other forums with about half of the participants from here.
     
  10. Garcia

    Garcia Member

    Dec 14, 1999
    Castro Castro
    I am interested.

    I am ashamed to ask, but do you have any quality online resources that list players or something. It looks like I will need to do some footwork.
     
  11. sidspaceman

    sidspaceman Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 20, 2002
    AMÉRICA DE CALI
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    I'm with Garcia I don't enough about Brazalian football to be sure that I am getting a steal in the 25th round.
     
  12. afgrijselijkheid

    Dec 29, 2002
    mokum
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    i'd do it if i wasnt in the other one already

    if anybody wishes to have a consultant of sorts, shoot me a PM - i'm no expert but i have watched a lot of brazilian league and junior international football over the last two years
     
  13. Ombak

    Ombak Moderator
    Staff Member

    Flamengo
    Apr 19, 1999
    Irvine, CA
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Okay, I'm counting the following "managers" as in:

    Ombak,
    ThrashBoy,
    trmbrasil,
    Ronaldo+10,
    Alex 1,
    Garcia,
    sidspaceman
    EDIT: andythemick (replied below)

    And I encourage you to join, bluedaddy19. We like quality, not quantity!

    I will post some resources in Portuguese and English in this forum shortly. Once we have 12 peopl I will draw a draft order and we should expect to start on Monday, February 23rd.

    efer where are you? MIGKiller, when are you back? tpmazembe!!! (gone for 2 weeks man, you'll miss out on this one I'm afraid).
     
  14. andythemick

    andythemick New Member

    Aug 22, 2003
    louisville, ky
    I'm interested as well.
     
  15. efernandez9

    efernandez9 Member

    Jun 6, 1999
    Joe Pool Lake
    sir Omback:

    I am in!
     
  16. Ombak

    Ombak Moderator
    Staff Member

    Flamengo
    Apr 19, 1999
    Irvine, CA
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    2 (or 3) more is all we need - I'll try and recruit tomorrow. I already have a draft order - will then randomly draw the managers into it (currently it reads A B C D etc. - we will then draw a letter for each manager).

    Will collect resources for everyone (hey I need some research too once we get into the later rounds!!! - everyone will) and post over the weekend. Expect to start Monday morning. pm me or e-mail me through bigsoccer if you have any questions.
     
  17. trmbrasil

    trmbrasil Member

    Mar 29, 2003
    Washington, DC
    Club:
    Bahia Salvador
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This should be great Ombak and many thanks for coordinating, however, do you have to launch it during Carnaval?? Could the draft start on Wed or Thurs of next week? Maybe Mig might return by then? I know I'll be in better shape for the draft if not physically drained.
     
  18. Ombak

    Ombak Moderator
    Staff Member

    Flamengo
    Apr 19, 1999
    Irvine, CA
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    That's reasonable - even if I should start it earlier just to spite you lucky bastards who are in Brazil...

    Anyways, we'll wait till Thursday morning to start then.
     
  19. Ombak

    Ombak Moderator
    Staff Member

    Flamengo
    Apr 19, 1999
    Irvine, CA
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Time to go on a recruiting drive for the last 2 or 3 managers.

    Resources:

    First of all, do not forget the basics!

    www.fifa.com for rosters of youth tournaments, www.conmebol.com for rosters of the Olympic Qualifiers and past Copa Americas, and line-ups for Libertadores!

    Don't undervalue these - I had forgottena very valuable midfielder out of Brazil's squad of 23 in the World Cup and was racking my brain to remember who it was until I went to the site.

    Second: For those of you who speak Portuguese, use the major newspapers: home.uol.com.br, globo.globo.com.br

    For those who need a more in-depth source in English I'm still searching for something comprehensive, suggestions are welcome.
     
  20. afgrijselijkheid

    Dec 29, 2002
    mokum
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    i'd love to play ombak, but i'll be losing my unlimited for a few weeks and dial-up ain't cheap in the netherlands - still, as i said i'd love to help out one of the managers, maybe someone who might need the odd suggestion or sounding board
     
  21. sidspaceman

    sidspaceman Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 20, 2002
    AMÉRICA DE CALI
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    If you want bluedaddy you can be my GM.
     
  22. Ombak

    Ombak Moderator
    Staff Member

    Flamengo
    Apr 19, 1999
    Irvine, CA
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    I have no objection to that - bluedaddy if you want to contribute to sidspaceman's draft that's cool.
     
  23. sidspaceman

    sidspaceman Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 20, 2002
    AMÉRICA DE CALI
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Their you go Bluedaddy the offer to be the GM of Santanico Pandemonium is on the table.:)
     
  24. Ronaldo+10

    Ronaldo+10 New Member

    Aug 20, 2003
    Los Angeles
    Hey Ombak, when are we starting ?? I have most of my pic's in mind.
     
  25. Ombak

    Ombak Moderator
    Staff Member

    Flamengo
    Apr 19, 1999
    Irvine, CA
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    OK, I'm unstickying this thread.

    We will start the draft on Monday at 9am. I will post a draft order on Sunday - people can still join but we will start even if we don't get anyone.

    I would like everyone who has said they are in to PM or e-mail me confirming - or just do so again on this thread.

    MIGKiller, come on!
     

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