News: The Big Tech Thread

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  1. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
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    They must have had something though - because how else can you push your code for usability testing etc? One of the criticisms of them is they were quite slow to deploy code through the various stages from dev to test to limited production - so I can't reconcile this one. Perhaps dev was done on some sort of a local version?

    ETA: I see they have some strange setup
     
  2. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
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    They wouldn't be the only company that tests in production. ;)
     
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  3. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
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    So... Is there a point where Tesla has to address the Elon Musk question? Their stock is taking a tumble and analysts are blaming the damage Elon's reputation has taken over the last year. Admittedly, stocks can turn around quickly, but when your brand is so tied up in a single person and that person is flying off the deep end....

     
  4. The Jitty Slitter

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  5. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
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    Chicago Red Stars
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    And somehow Twitter continues to chug along.
     
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  6. JamesA

    JamesA Member+

    Dec 7, 2004
    Victoria
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    Elon had one heck of a bad reception at a Chappelle Show yesterday.


    Granted thats highly anecdotal and probably a left leaning crowd. But, not a great sign.
     
  7. Smurfquake

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    I don't know, a Chappelle crowd is going to be somewhat self-selected against the truly "woke", since Chappelle has said some pretty nasty things about trans people. I wouldn't go see him.
     
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  8. JamesA

    JamesA Member+

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    Yes fair enough. That's a great point. Even worse for Elon.
     
  9. Smurfquake

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    It's really fallen in to the memory hole that so many people (myself included) thought Twitter was going to collapse under its own weight when so many people left the company. I'm not sure why we were wrong - maybe Twitter was built very well (but the whistleblower documents say otherwise); maybe there are some lesser seen parts that are failing but the basic functionality is just fine; maybe it's not actually that hard to keep a global site up and running, and there were too many Twitter employees who really were unnecessary. I hope it's not that last one, because that means Elon was right, but it also means that Silicon Valley employees aren't as awesome as we keep telling everyone we are.
     
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  10. superdave

    superdave Member+

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    The only Silicon Valley employee worth a shit is spejic.
     
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  11. The Jitty Slitter

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    i expect all these guys to come out in full nazi regalia before the year is out
     
  12. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    Truth

    1602107646437654528 is not a valid tweet id
     
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  13. soccernutter

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    As others have said, it will take a while for Twitter to fall apart. It is on some server somewhere and will continue to chug along. But eventually the logs and updates, and maybe lack of money, will cause it to slowly go off line.

    Or if the computer are heavily infected, ransomware. Oh, that would be awesome.
     
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  14. Kazuma

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    Jul 30, 2007
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    I wrote on here that Twitter is used by governments, media, and sports for a reason. And quite honestly, what viable alternative is there? Post is early days, Mastodon is social media for Linux nerds (And I like Linux!), and aside from those, it's still early and I mean early.

    As for the people that left, yes, it's still sustainable but doing everything to keep it running with a reduced staff? Well, that never works out at all. And if anything, it's not employees, it's Silicon Valley execs that aren't as awesome (Zuck and his weird 90s VR obsession) as we've been told.
     
  15. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
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  16. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

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    It was in SF.. While you can question if the crowd was "woke", they were, most likely, in the tech industry or adjacent to the industry. Musk's treatment of Twitter employees is not going to go over well for people in that industry, even if they don't disagree with his Tweets.
     
  17. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    Yes, casually ruining lives is not normally met with enthusiasm.
     
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  18. celito

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    Feb 28, 2005
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    Elon barely said a word with the incessant booing . Not sure what Dave was trying to do here.
     
  19. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    oooh oooh! I know. To show how WOKE SF is.
     
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  20. superdave

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  21. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

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    Unless you call it "disruption." Then you'll rack up venture capital by the billions.
     
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  22. spejic

    spejic Cautionary example

    Mar 1, 1999
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    I couldn't even keep my high tech career going. The chances of me keeping something like Twitter up is zero.

    But if you mean as a human being, I accept the compliment without necessarily believing it's true.
     
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  23. roby

    roby Member+

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    Feb 27, 2005
    So Cal
    So long as you don't ever display any humanity or compassion there'll always be a spot for you on our team! :thumbsup:

    HAIL GRIMES!!!
     
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  24. The Jitty Slitter

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    Apart from the misunderstanding that no one serious thought it would go down any time soon - there are several explanations for this

    1. All the techs were a bit overstaffed as it was top of the cycle - so maybe as as many as 20-30% could be lost in getting leaner

    2. Most of the people fired aren't techs, but people who work on/with the platform - moderation, safety, sales, marketing etc

    3. There are different dev/tech teams - so i am assuming they mostly kept critical environment people who keep the thing going, a bare bones support team, and a tiny dev team. If you decide you just aren't going to develop the product much because you are doing a big change of direction you can lose a lot of people there.

    Also, i assume they just assumed a different risk profile, You can get rid of people it you are happy to accept possibilities of major outtages.
     
  25. The Jitty Slitter

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    Bayern München
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    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
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    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    As an example, I had a ex-client contact me after several years about changes to an app they had taken in-house. it quickly became clear that they had no one in house who could do React. So the app was unsupported all that time, but was heavily used every day. It could have blown up on day one - but in fact ran quite happily.

    Twitter will be like this on a major scale. There will be big knowledge gaps but it won't become obvious until stuff goes wrong.
     
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