Rank) Club(1st Place Votes) Points (prvs) Group(place) 1) AC Milan(5) 92 (2) G(1) 2) Arsenal(2) 88 (4) A(1) 3) Real Madrid(2) 77 (1) C(1) 4) Valencia(2) 75 (3) B(1) 5) Barcelona 61 (7) H(1) 6) Manchester United 49 (6) F(1) 7) Juventus 47 (5) E(1) 8) Deportivo La Coruna 26 (9) G(2) 9) Borussia Dortmund 16 (UR) A(2) 10) Lyon 14 (17) D(1) 11) Ajax 3 (12) D(3) 12) AS Roma 2 (UR) C(2) 12) Inter Milan 2 (8) D(2) 14) Liverpool 1 (13) B(2) 15) Bayern Munich 1 (10) G(3)
Latest 1. Milan 2. Arsenal 3. Manchester United 4. Valencia 5. Liverpool 6. Barcelona 7. Inter 8. Real Madrid 9. Borussia Dortmund 10. Juventus
Inter is ranked ahead of Lyon by you even though they trail them in their group ? Even though Inter hasn't been Lyon in 2 meetings ? Go back to sleep you biased Italian moron. Inter ain't in the top 10.
1) AC Milan (and just think, they did that to Bayern w/out Rivaldo and Shevchenko) 2) Liverpool (yea I know they aren't even on top of their group but can you name a hotter team? Owens - Diouf Combo most dangerous in the world hear that Real Madrid?) 3) ManU (the strikers are average, esp w/o Ruud but they probably have the best midfield in the world with Becks, Giggs, Scholes, Nicky Butt, and Veron) 4)Barcelona (can't really tell how good they are in their group but La Liga defense has been playing Matador style) 5) Arsenal (after getting points in 30 straight they have now lost 2 straight, folks will be setting up wards against Wayne Rooney when Everton visits Highbury) 6) Valencia (stubbed a toe against Basel but the Spanish holders are stepping right along) 7) Dortmund (consistency thy name is Borussia, but can they catch Arsenal and will they care enough to actually try?) 8)Leverkusen (Landon who? We don't need no stinkin American, have now won 4 matches in a row) 9)Juventus (even if it was in St. James Park favorites aren't supposed to lose to teams that got trounced 5 - 2 to relegation fighters) 10)Lyon (for lack of a better team, even though Sonny Anderson and Carriere are fun to watch)
Ah yes...an intelligent unbiased fan of "French Football" chimes in. Inter have only lost 1 game all season and any team that can only manage 6th place in the challenging French league doesn't deserve to be in the top 10 of anything.
Blackburn are hardly relegation fighters. They are doing quite well in advancing in the UEFA cup, 7th in the premiership, and look a good bet to play in Europe next year too. Muppet.
1) Milan 2) Milan? OK, then Barcelona 3) Milan! No, Valencia 4) Real Madrid 5) Arsenal 6) Man U 7) Borussia Dortmund 8) Lyon 9) Inter 10) Dynamo Kyiv
1. Manchester United 2. Barcelona 3. Milan 4. Valencia 5. Real Madrid 6. Arsenal 7. Liverpool 8. Borussia Dortmund 9. Lyon 10. Leverkusen
Milan (12 pts +7) Man U (12 +9) Barcelona (12 pts +6) Valencia (10 +9) Real Madrid (8 +9) Arsenal (9 +6) Juve Lyon Deportivo Dynamo Tony
6th place in OCTOBER. I didn't know league champonships were won in OCT. Its not even the half way point yet.
yea...but a few weeks ago they were below sunderland, and then won 2 in a row. I hope they can keep it up,David Dunne and Damien Duff look like quite a pairing and Friedel is outstanding in goal
1. AC Milan (2) 2. Valencia (4) 3. Arsenal (3) 4. Real Madrid (1) 5. Liverpool (NR) 6. Man. Utd. (6) 7. Barcelona (7) 8. Juventus (5) 9. Inter (9) 10. Lyon (NR) Dropping out: Deportivo, FC Bayern On the brink of joining the top ten: Lens, Ajax, Dortmund, Auxerre, Celta de Vigo, Bologna
You ought to not post anymore, getting help for your emotional outbursts should consume all the free time you have.
I have to agree. Inter are definitely not better than Lyon at the moment. Their ranking in the French competition has nothing to do with that. If it really does how do you explain the Dutch number 18 kicking Bordeaux out of the UEFA cup last year (or 2 years ago.. don't remember exactly). Domestic and international are two different things.
I'll agree as well, Inter are NOT playing well at the moment. So far, they've still been able to squeak a few out in Europe but they need to step it up a gear if they want to get to the next stage and seriously contend. Cuper's lineups are still overly cautious in the midfield and other teams run right through them there, add to that the defence is in disarray letting in really weak goals.
A team's form in their domestic league has alot to do with how good a team is, at least in my rankings they do. You can't just discount how a club is playing in their league. Inter is currently joint top of Serie A and that is saying something. Lyon, if they are really that good should be topping the table in France. If Lyon was currently 18th in France but still topping their group in CL would you still say they are better than Inter?
I don't think is true. If you watched the game then you realize that Inter basically dominated this game. Very attractive and flowing offesnse, and sound defense outside of set peices. Inter probably made 3 mistakes in the entire match and those 3 mistakes led to Lyon goals. Lyons defense was basically shredded and their offense for much of the match was not there. They got lucky
Oh please the first two Lyon goals were collective beauties, they took the inter defenders to the cleaners, plus Cacapa scored an own goal for inter in an attack that would have led to nothing. as for talking about who is better? its just too early to talk about that just now, they are two great teams.
Fact is that a team can play superb in Europe and be ************ domestically. And you might think that a weak performance (being ranked 6th is not weak, it's the beginning of the competition) in the league makes you less strong in Europe but reality proves otherwise. If Lyon were ranked 18th but they still topped the group with these results I'd still rank them over Inter. Serie A is tough but it's not the world. So Inter being 1 is nice but doesn't mean that much. They're a good team... no news. I don't agree with you on this although Inter played better than they have so far in the CL. Besides Inter also got lucky against Ajax (not very relevant but I just had to say that
Actually, I don't either Lyon or Inter are very good. A healthy Ajax team would run away with this group with breaking a sweat
What? Did I say it's impossible? Listen.... anybody who's watched domestic teams play international will know the phenomenon of teams that play like ************ in Europe but are playing good in their own competition or vice versa. Domestic league and CL are just not the same and the results will not always be the same. Simple as that. A team can have bad form in the domestic league and still play good in Europe. Might be odd but it happens all the time. Chances are that this team will recover (domestically) during the season so that they will have a very good overall season in the end. Lyon being ranked 6th in this phase of the league is not a valid argument to rank them below Inter because Inter are 1st in Italy. In the two matches between these teams I believe Lyon made a very good impression. Just like they did against Rosenborg (5-0) and they played OK against Ajax in Amsterdam. Inter didn't impress against Rosenborg, Ajax or Lyon. They showed why they will always be a contender but they also showed that they should be able to 10 times better with the quality they have... but they don't so far.