The best games of the best players

Discussion in 'The Beautiful Game' started by comme, Sep 19, 2017.

  1. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024

    for you Joaquin from Spain better than Van Basten ?
     
  2. PDG1978

    PDG1978 Member+

    Mar 8, 2009
    Club:
    Nottingham Forest FC
    Not the Scifo one yet, but quite a few recently appeared ones generally anyway:
    Cristiano Puskas - YouTube
    And I think it's fitting, as a Forest fan, if I should post a link to the John Robertson one (vs Cologne in the 3-3 game from 1978/79) - probably his best performance uploaded like this on Youtube I'd say (though I made the one for Scotland vs East Germany 1982 myself and he did play very well in that one too and had key assists) - without counting he must have quite a lot of dribbles in this one himself, and on a 'dodgy' pitch on that day as you can see (though that wouldn't help defenders either obviously)
     
  3. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024

    https://www.bigsoccer.com/threads/t...e-dutch-belgian-and-british-football.2137531/



    well, George Best ....my Top-14 ... between ...dutch , belgian and british players



    and on Ronaldinho Gaucho i don't put him between Top-100 of all timer !
     
  4. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024

    i'm seeing on this moment again and again


    Real Madrid vs Frankfurt 1960 Final !


    Look

    Del sol ...

    has so many many dribbles completed

    and still is missing 4 minutes lesser by problems ..

    power light dying

    during the transmission from this Match there ..in 1960 !
     
  5. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024


    on Ronaldinho Gaucho

    on professional Football :



    816 Matches

    299 Goals

    203 Assists ( including Non-Opta )
    +
    29 penalties suffered won %


    average

    3 key -Passes
    7 or 8 dribbles completed per 90 minutes played Uefa Cup 2003-2004


    between
    0, 40 % or 0, 42 % at maximum goals per 90 minutes played
    0, 30 % Assists ..per 90 minutes played !

    defensive actions only :

    2, 5 per 90 minutes played at His peak

    comparing with other greater players of the all Football History


    Ronaldinho is behind and so far away from the majority of the greater players .."!


    Ronaldinho was a limited player !!
     
  6. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024

    limited player !

    not a Total Footballer !


    Ronaldinho is level from Roberto Baggio or Dennis Bergkamp on my view !
     
  7. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024


    https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1w8i41







    Alfredo Di Stefano

    10 - defensive actions
    +
    5 dribbles completed




    Del Sol

    10 dribbles Attempts
    7 dribbles completed


    Gento

    8 dribbles Attempts
    4 dribbles completed


    Ferenc Puskas

    5 - dribbles completed

    like He did it against England in 1953 !
     
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  8. Al Gabiru

    Al Gabiru Member+

    Jan 28, 2020
    Good research, so they completed fewer dribbles than Dinho and Messi. And Best would still be the record holder.

    Van Basten also dribbled with good frequency and efficiency. We cannot dismiss dribbling as something insignificant, it is an important skill, it destabilizes defenses, it breaks down tactical systems.
     
  9. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024

    But by your Logic on Football that you mentioned on Ronaldinho or Messi


    Del Sol

    is better player than Di Stefano , Puskas and Gento for example !!!!????
     
  10. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024

    i disagree totally from you


    Van Basten dribbled at Ajax years and until the Euro-cup 1988



    later 1988-1989 season

    Marco dribbled much lesser than Evani , Gullit and Donadoni at averages for example almost don't dribble anyone


    Marco dribbled more than Dennis Bergkamp for example ..

    but Bergkamp never dribbled anyone


    Marco at Ac Milan years ..dribbled almost nothing ..!

    Frank 73 .. is right when He speaks it here always
     
  11. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024

    on Best record


    honestly ... i don't know


    maybe Angelo Sormani in 1969
    maybe Piet Keizer ...1971 and 1972 !
     
  12. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024

    Great Video Carlito 86 yes !


    When i was much more younger than now

    for sure i was a Fan of Veron i can't deny about this

    ..

    honestly speaking with you

    nowadays

    i'm really impressed with Unai Emery's amazing Tactics

    He uses one part
    like Gegen-pressing Style Arrigo Sacchi 80's

    later ..

    in Lower Block ..

    Unai uses Catenaccio from Inter Milan 60's...


    is pretty cool how UNai Emery can adapt fastly with wiser mind ..










     
  13. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024
  14. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024
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