Following on from the thread about Becks being offered up to Barca for 30mil and countless rumours of Man Utd being prepared to sell him to the highest bidder. It does seem that there is just to much talk surrounding Becks for all this to be unfounded. It really seems like he's on his way out of OT before the Charity Shield comes round. I thought that throughout last season the way Fergie was dropping Becks seemed like he was preparing for life without him..seeing how the team would operate and such...It was a success for Fergie because the team kept winning and winning in the league with or without Beckham. The amount of money thats been bandied about for Beckham's signature is going to be at least 35million. For that amount of money do you think Man U should cash in on him and go out and buy a whole batch of players from the cash? I can't understand why the richest club in the world with the most income from fans around the world would genuinely need to sell to buy and it seems more like shrewd business keeping shareholders happy then trying to benefit the team. Personally i want Beckham to stay..with the kind of strikers Man Utd have you need to be feeding them with lots of elite crosses and ariel balls the likes of which only Beckham can supply. Selling Beckham and only then adding Ronaldinho is a monumental mistake..even if you put another wide man in Beckhams position the team is going to lose an edge..people like Joaquin..Duff cannot deliver a ball with as much devestating effect as Beckham and also his backtracking is an essential part of Man Utd's success...Only Cafu has as much juice in the tank as Beck's on the right of the pitch. The idea of having Scholes and ROnaldinho(if he joins) roaming all over the place is a nightmare for defenders and midfielders of opposition teams...and trying to track those two would leave Beckham even more space out wide...which means even more perfect assists via Beckham's newfound space. I'm going to be very disappointed even if we sign 5 players with that cash because you're losing an essential piece of the Man Utd puzzle especially in Europe. Maybe have someone like Joaquin benched or alternated or whatever but replacing one for the other is going to benefit in some cases (like battles vs someone like R Carlos) but going to hurt the team badly when they come againt players directly opposing a Joaquin or a Duff who are equally as offensive..they'll be a ton of space behind either of those two. What are you guys thoughts on the Should he go/stay saga...and would you take the cash or would you keep him?
I think he leaves after the US Tour, and I'm not happy about it. Beckham has been a Manchester United fan/supporter/player his whole life. He's a true Red and I don't think it's right to sell him. Selling Becks so you can bring in 4 or 5 "mercenaries" is not right. Selling Becks just because he's worth 35 mil is not right. However; Fergie has made tough decisions before, and you have to give him the keys to the car at the end of the day....
Re: Re: The Beckham Saga. I agree 100% selling Stam was the biggest mistake Fergie has made and the side has still yet to recover from that. He should have just severely repremanded him or something not just throw him away
Too much hype and rumors, getting annoying, first was the boot that hit Beckham's face then the relationship with SAF, Possible move to Real, now Barca. Anyway, I want him to stay
it hurts to see becks go, one of my fav players. although giggs comes first and i would hate to see him go to inter milan. fully agree with motterman, he is a true red. Shouldn't leave. Never.
Not so fast.... ? Reds won't play waiting game Stuart Brennan Note: copied from a newsgroup so I don't have a link to the original story on the net
It's not as if ManUtd are trying to get rid of Becks. They've been trying to sign Becks to a contract extension, in order to not risk losing him on a Bosman free. However, it seems Becks' agents have antagonized ManUtd & SAF with their negotiating tactics. If someone came in at the right price for Becks, I say accept it. I'd rather be in control of the situation now, rather than having no control 2 years from now. Not that I don't want to keep Becks. I think Becks is a good player. But certainly not a great one, nor one of the best at the moment. And if someone came in at the asking price, go for it. I think Becks will do well in Spain. He'll have something to prove to ManUtd for letting him go, and the new environment will inspire him to do so. Not that Becks can't help ManUtd win the CL next season. But I do think ManUtd will do better with Becks out of the picture. Other players will step up. Veron will shine, certainly if Keane were to play in the back. SAF will have more weapons to go to battle with in selling Becks. With selling Becks, SAF will get Ronaldinho, a new GK (no, not Howard), and a new mid. Add to that Bellion(?) for the future. I think the real value in selling Becks lies not just in what you get for him in return, but also in better play and production from the likes of Veron. My trust and confidence in the success of Manchester United lies not with Becks. Rather, it's what SAF does to contribute to the club's success.
Re: Re: The Beckham Saga. agree with this. I'd like to see him stay but if the boss says he goes then I'll live with it.
I like Beckham, one of my favorite players, But, I think SAF sees the situation like this, he is 28 and his transfer value won't be as high as it is now. Football is also a business, just like share prices, we sell at the highest price. However, beckham gone is not good for United's merchandise and market in Japan.
I would rather see Becks go than Giggs. Becks is a great player, but as a player Giggs is United. Giggs may not be George Best, but hes a great flare player, which is what United are about. I dont think we have seen the best from him. So Plc & SAF please keep them both. We dont need to sell. But, if Becks wont sign a new contract we will need to sell. I think Becks has 2 years left on his contract.
I wonder if all of these stories in the press linking Beckham first to Madrid and now to Barca are not being downplayed by United so they can use it as leverage to sign him to a new contract this summer. Since the last contract took a year to sign, United don't want Beckham unsigned next summer. If they get Beckham to believe that he could well be sold for the right offer, and if he truly wants to stay at OT, then Beckham will be more motivated to get a contract signed in a timely manner. Or at least this is what I tell myself in the hope that he's not going anywhere.
If it was most any other player, I'm not sure the press fevor could be at this level without it being a given that the player was being sold. In Beckham's case though, I can see the above being just as plausible as him being sold. HOWEVER, I don't think that any club could just set out to create rumors like that and for it to happen. Not even something as sensational as this. And we do have other parties involved quoted as saying they'd buy Beckham. I think that something is up. And selling Beckham makes sense **IF** you can get a crapload of money for him. 30 - 50 million euros is a crapload. Also, I think it'll help his game out by giving him a different type of soccer to play.
The IMUSA (Independent Manchester United Supporters Association) [they were instrumental in keeping the club being sold to Rupert Murdoch (Sky/Fox)], their stance is close to mine: I would only add, that I personally don't want him to be sold.
Don't sell Beckham! Why would we ever want to sell Beckham? Are we in that desperate need of money that we actually need to SELL players? Manchester United never sells, WE buy players, and the only way they leave Old Trafford is either to retire or if we don't resign them. The club system was designed to prevent any sort of financial instability, and I am sure we can still purchase players like Ronaldinho without needing to sell any of our big named stars. All the analysts are saying that, right now would be the perfect time to sell Mr.David Beckham, and how it would have the most minimal affect on the club in the long run. I feel in the long run, Manchester United is going to miss the services that Beckham could have provided for the club. First of all, he is not the type of player who would lose anything from aging, but has everything to gain. He is not the sort of player who runs with the ball at a lightning speed that his opponents can't catch up, BUT he is able to hold up the ball wonderfully, and he crosses the ball with the most deadliest accuracy. These things can only get better with age and experience. Secondly the publicity that David Beckham brings to the club is ENORMOUS. Seriously, the most thing that people outside England think about when you say 'Manchester United' is David Beckham. He is HUGE in Japan and a lot of other Asian destinations. Has anyone really taken out the time to check out how many people that come to the sell out stadium in Old Trafford is actually there to just even get a glimpse of David Beckham? I am sure plenty. Let's say that the Japanese tourists who makes the trip all the way to England to see Beckham, don't find him there, I am sure they wouldn't mind instead flying over to say Spain or Italy to catch him kick a ball around, (which by the way would be great for their countries economy!) and forget about Manchester Untied completely. I am sure that ManU's impressive records of wins of cups and trophies has gained it a world reputation as being one of the best CLUBS(and not just in football) in the world, but don't ever underestimate the magnetic charm that is Beckham, that had helped the club achieve this status. Third, the analysts also said that the clubs fan base was stronger than before even after Cantona left Manchester United, and should be the same case with David Beckham. The thing is, with Cantona he RETIRED from football ending his career with United. People can respect that, I mean we are not going to tell him to not retire and play for United forever and ever. for crying out loud, we are considering of selling one of Manchester United's favourite son here. Can you imagine how many sore united fans there are going to be if Beckham was sold to a rival club. Also, Cantona was brought in by Sir Alex where of course he did wonders for the club, but Beckham came up from the United's youth system, and is undoubtedly one of the most successful outcome of the system. There is going to be more attachment to Beckham I am sure, and it would be a sad day for any manchester United fan to see him leave Old Trafford. Fourth, why do you think all the big clubs around Europe wants to buy Beckham? It's not like they DON'T have and right midfielders, but because Beckham is one of the BEST right midfielder. We have him, so why do we want to get rid of him? If we were to sell him, where are we going to find a replacement? And David Beckham is one of the best in the business, because he can perform his best with this club. He's been at the club all his life, and he knows the way the club plays, and that's why he can give the most marvelous performances. I don't think he will do as good anywhere else than when he is at Manchester United. He know's the Manchester United's way, and it's philosophy, and he would be a huge influence for anyone coming up from the Manchester United's youth system, to any new players coming into the team. Fifth and FINALLY, as great as Manchester United club is, it is still considered to be second best team against the number on Real Madrid, which has got a array of star players, and if we were EVER to sell ANY of our players, the gap would only widen and the club status might even slide down to third or even fourth or fifth club in the world of football. Although signing of players such as Ronaldinho could propel our status to the top, but selling anybody would just not do. All in all, I hope Sir Alex would reconsider any bid for our Beckham, and reject all offers. "glory glory Man United, glory glory Man United...." Kim from Hong Kong. Why would we ever want to sell Beckham? Are we in that desperate need of money that we actually need to SELL players? Manchester United never sells, WE buy players, and the only way they leave Old Trafford is either to retire or if we don't resign them. The club system was designed to prevent any sort of financial instability, and I am sure we can still purchase players like Ronaldinho without needing to sell any of our big named stars. All the analysts are saying that, right now would be the perfect time to sell Mr.David Beckham, and how it would have the most minimal affect on the club in the long run. I feel in the long run, Manchester United is going to miss the services that Beckham could have provided for the club. First of all, he is not the type of player who would lose anything from aging, but has everything to gain. He is not the sort of player who runs with the ball at a lightning speed that his opponents can't catch up, BUT he is able to hold up the ball wonderfully, and he crosses the ball with the most deadliest accuracy. These things can only get better with age and experience. Secondly the publicity that David Beckham brings to the club is ENORMOUS. Seriously, the most thing that people outside England think about when you say 'Manchester United' is David Beckham. He is HUGE in Japan and a lot of other Asian destinations. Has anyone really taken out the time to check out how many people that come to the sell out stadium in Old Trafford is actually there to just even get a glimpse of David Beckham? I am sure plenty. Let's say that the Japanese tourists who makes the trip all the way to England to see Beckham, don't find him there, I am sure they wouldn't mind instead flying over to say Spain or Italy to catch him kick a ball around, (which by the way would be great for their countries economy!) and forget about Manchester Untied completely. I am sure that ManU's impressive records of wins of cups and trophies has gained it a world reputation as being one of the best CLUBS(and not just in football) in the world, but don't ever underestimate the magnetic charm that is Beckham, that had helped the club achieve this status. Third, the analysts also said that the clubs fan base was stronger than before even after Cantona left Manchester United, and should be the same case with David Beckham. The thing is, with Cantona he RETIRED from football ending his career with United. People can respect that, I mean we are not going to tell him to not retire and play for United forever and ever. for crying out loud, we are considering of selling one of Manchester United's favourite son here. Can you imagine how many sore united fans there are going to be if Beckham was sold to a rival club. Also, Cantona was brought in by Sir Alex where of course he did wonders for the club, but Beckham came up from the United's youth system, and is undoubtedly one of the most successful outcome of the system. There is going to be more attachment to Beckham I am sure, and it would be a sad day for any manchester United fan to see him leave Old Trafford. Fourth, why do you think all the big clubs around Europe wants to buy Beckham? It's not like they DON'T have and right midfielders, but because Beckham is one of the BEST right midfielder. We have him, so why do we want to get rid of him? If we were to sell him, where are we going to find a replacement? And David Beckham is one of the best in the business, because he can perform his best with this club. He's been at the club all his life, and he knows the way the club plays, and that's why he can give the most marvelous performances. I don't think he will do as good anywhere else than when he is at Manchester United. He know's the Manchester United's way, and it's philosophy, and he would be a huge influence for anyone coming up from the Manchester United's youth system, to any new players coming into the team. Fifth and FINALLY, as great as Manchester United club is, it is still considered to be second best team against the number on Real Madrid, which has got a array of star players, and if we were EVER to sell ANY of our players, the gap would only widen and the club status might even slide down to third or even fourth or fifth club in the world of football. Although signing of players such as Ronaldinho could propel our status to the top, but selling anybody would just not do. All in all, I hope Sir Alex would reconsider any bid for our Beckham, and reject all offers. "glory glory Man United, glory glory Man United...." Kim from Hong Kong.
even so- one person doesn't make the team, even if it is becks. love the guy, but let's think about what we can get for 30$-as it seems the deal is done.
yea looks the saga is going to be concluded by this next week. The only wide men of Beckhams level in the world these days can barely defend and do not track back past the half way line. That goes against the Man Utd ethos and it'll cuase havoc next season. even if you get a guy whose not used to doing so but will do so anyways he's just going to concede fouls and make mistakes. It's a bad, bad move.
Re: even so- We'll be lucky to get 30 mil for him. Barca ain't even in the champ league, Real can't keep buying star players and Milan says the money could be spent on better things. Beckham should just stay, finish his career in United with that fat contract he is currently on.