In regards to drums etc. I have been playing drums since I was 13 that is bordering on 21 years. I can honestly say I can keep a beat, but Sunday night, at times, it was terribly hard to hear what was going on in the later portion of the first half. Owen handed me a bass drum. (I was in the far side of 136 to try and help foster chants-to no avail) I have been in the Barra for a little over 2 years and never once played a drum, just sang, etc. I made it into the Drum Circle and then helped folks get back into the sections. When I got back into the sections it was very hard to find space as others had said, and a couple of folks (which I mentioned in another thread) were basically there for...what? I do not know. I was asked by one of them to get out of their way and I simply kept on playing. I would occasionally stop (and I noticed both Srdan and Jay shoot me a look) but it was because I couldn't hear what others were doing and when you have 5 + drummers going if you can't catch the beat that's happening it's best to wait it out, other wise, you risk throwing the whole bunch off. Anyhow, I will say this, I can sit behind my kit at home and play for 2+ hours, but holding a bass drum and wailing on it for 2 hours is hard ********ing work, harder than I had recently imagined and this is coming from a guy who has played pretty much his whole life. So, with that, my respect for you drummers just increased 10 fold, and I already had respect for you guys simply for being drummers. So Srdan, if you wanna call them out I'll back 'em up but only with my left arm as my right is suffering from Tyrannasaurus Rex syndrome.