The Ball (Jabulani?)

Discussion in 'LA Galaxy' started by shelbo, Jun 9, 2010.

  1. shelbo

    shelbo Member+

    Oct 16, 2007
    L.A.
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So the seemingly required articles have arrived, talking about how the new adidas soccer ball being used at the World Cup is horrible, unpredictable, causes hives, etc. Mostly based on complaints from goalies. None of the articles mention that the same ball has been used in all of the MLS games this season! Have any MLS players complained about the ball?
     
  2. shirteesdotnet

    Feb 13, 2007
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This happens every world cup dating back to 94 that I can remember. A new ball comes out and players say it moves and swerves funny.
     
  3. eapleitez

    eapleitez Member

    Jun 29, 2008
    Bakersfield
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's also been used in the Bundesliga.
     
  4. mparker

    mparker Member

    Jan 11, 2007
    Section 141 Row G
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    All of the players complaining about the ball are sponsored by Nike or another company that isn't called Adidas. It's that way every four years.
     
  5. Marve1ous

    Marve1ous Member

    Jun 17, 2008
    Club:
    Los Angeles
    I don't believe the MLS ball is a Jabulani. It might have a Jabulani design painted on it but I don't believe it's a true Jabulani, as in the way it was built.

    could be wrong tho
     
  6. The Cadaver

    The Cadaver It's very quiet here.

    Oct 24, 2000
    La Cañada, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Maybe related. Maybe not. But did you see the second DCU goal tonight? I have never seen Keller muff a ball like that before. Maybe he's losing it...or maybe the ball has something to do with it.
     
  7. GalaxyKoa

    GalaxyKoa Member+

    Jul 18, 2007
    North County
    Club:
    Los Angeles
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    MLS does play with a real Jabulani. If they didn't, the $150 they charge for it is WAY overpriced.
     
  8. HailtotheKing

    HailtotheKing Member+

    San Antonio FC
    United States
    Dec 1, 2008
    TEXAS
    Club:
    San Antonio Scorpions FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well,

    Mr Green will tell you all day/night that the ball sucks <_<
     
  9. Oceans of time

    Jun 26, 2007
    Chicago
    This seems to be the non-adidas butt kissing jabulani thread. Good. I've been watching Chicago Fire Andrew Dykstra Goalie struggle with this ball all season. I sit (stand actually) very close to the north goal. Even in practice it bounces right off his hands or he doesn't estimate the curve. I thought it was him but now I think it is the ball. Someone said it doesn't want to be kicked. More like it doesn't want to be kicked, batted, held, or touched in any way. In short, this Jabulani ball has "personal space" issues.
     
  10. The Cadaver

    The Cadaver It's very quiet here.

    Oct 24, 2000
    La Cañada, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's really strange. It hasn't seemed to cause Ricketts a whole lot of problems. Must have an anti-Dykstra element weaved into the surface.
     
  11. Vindo310

    Vindo310 Member+

    Mar 19, 2009
    South Bay LA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Neither has it caused Josh Saunders or Tim Howard any problems. It seems like good keepers can block the ball and hold onto it and bad ones can't. Weird, I know.
     
  12. Oceans of time

    Jun 26, 2007
    Chicago
    Thanks for letting me play in your sandbox, L.A. I just grabbed about 2 hours of pick up games wherein the Jabulani was used and now I'm as uncertain as ever. I played goalie a bit and the field and I don't really see a noticeable difference. It's kind of smooth so maybe it doesn't swerve as much but I'm not the one to notice that distinction and the smoothness would give goalies a problem especially if it's wet. That design looks like any eyeball. Is that what it is? Some pro athletes can be a little goofy. Maybe they subconsciously think the Jabulani see's them and what they are about to do to it. :confused:
     
  13. cleschke

    cleschke Member+

    Aug 16, 2004
    Fullerton, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I believe Tim Howard has however gone on record to complain about the ball though. This was before Saturday however. Maybe he's now changed his tune.

    This happens every 4 years. They get a new ball, and everybody complains about it because its a little bit different than the old one. Its a fear of change more than anything I think.
     
  14. theLittleBirdie

    theLittleBirdie New Member

    Mar 22, 2010
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The reality is that the Jabulani ball has a lot more movement/action than previous balls -- mainly when struck very hard and dead (i.e., without spin). Sure, past balls had some movement when struck expertly this way, but this one has a LOT more movement.

    Obviously one keeper (Seitz, Dykstra, etc.) doesn't necessarily suffers more than others (Ricketts, Howard, etc.), but if you watch the WC (or MLS games this past season), GKs take a different approach when facing hard struck shots. Instead of even contemplating catching the ball straight away, they either parry the ball away or they seemingly "trap" the ball first with their hands -- either tipping it to themselves and then catching, or blocking it down and catching on a bounce (as Timmy did several times against England and what Dykstra, Ricketts and others have done in MLS this season causing some people to suggest they have "butterfingers").

    It's MUCH harder to catch bc of the wild movement. Many WC GKs have said this -- including adidas GKs. And, there is much, much more criticism of this ball this year than in WC years past.
     
  15. HailtotheKing

    HailtotheKing Member+

    San Antonio FC
    United States
    Dec 1, 2008
    TEXAS
    Club:
    San Antonio Scorpions FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    More to the point though:

    Where was the criticism ... BEFORE the World Cup ?

    MLS, African Cup of Nations, Club World Cup, Argentine Clausua .... nobody bitched. Now all of a sudden it is a problem ? Sorry, not interested in the bullshit trying to be sold.
     
  16. shirteesdotnet

    Feb 13, 2007
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Im sure Paris Hilton wouldnt have a problem with these new balls. :D The Edson Buddles of the world would agree.
     
  17. barroldinho

    barroldinho Member+

    Man Utd and LA Galaxy
    England
    Aug 13, 2007
    US/UK dual citizen in HB, CA
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    It's worth noting that Green's blunder was exactly the kind of thing that he is notorious for and why many England fans wished that Hart had been brought in and established before now.

    I've never liked bringing in new ball technology for WCs, as I want players to be at their very best. However, having already researched and read that this ball has been used well before the competition with no publicised complaints, I can't have much sympathy for the players.

    In fact, I'm tired of the whining. The ball, the horns, people bitching about the quality of play.

    Kyle Martino summed it up on ESPN radio, though I can't find the quote. His point was that a) they've been training for weeks with the ball and should be able to adapt & b) kids play with balls made from rags and are able to make do.
     
  18. css71588

    css71588 Member

    Apr 20, 2009
    perris ca
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    check out this video [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOr9kKrd8xc"]YouTube- Broadcast Yourself.[/ame]

    i saw it when it air omar also comes out in the show doing headers but i cant find the video on that
     
  19. The Cadaver

    The Cadaver It's very quiet here.

    Oct 24, 2000
    La Cañada, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    After one of the last matches, one of the commentators was pointing out the accuracy of LD's service compared with that provided by some of the other big names. Not too surprising given that LD has played with this ball for the first half of the MLS season. That gives him and the other MLS-based players a nice advantage.
     
  20. barroldinho

    barroldinho Member+

    Man Utd and LA Galaxy
    England
    Aug 13, 2007
    US/UK dual citizen in HB, CA
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Not if your names Jonathan Bornstein.
     

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