The Arsenal vs. Burnley, Premier League Matchday 2, 17 August 2019

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  1. thebigman

    thebigman Member+

    May 25, 2006
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    Stones and Laporte are good in that regard

    Gomez has promise as a passing cb

    Luiz has a great long ball though
     
  2. casoccerdad47

    casoccerdad47 Member+

    Mar 31, 2006
    I'm o
    i'm only advocating a Sokratis Holding pairing against teams that punt everything to their big center forwards in the box. I'd prefer Luiz against teams that favor playing the ball on the ground to quick forwards, like United, City, and Liverpool. Luiz is probably going to need some games off, Emery needs to schedule those games off against teams like Burnley.
     
  3. Tonerl

    Tonerl Member+

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    May 10, 2006
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    Sokratis is also better than Holding, by a lot.

    I like Holding a great deal but the hype is ridiculous. Can’t wait until Tyne fans turn on him. :rolleyes:
     
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  4. casoccerdad47

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    Mar 31, 2006
    I'll withhold judgement on this until VAR catches Sokratis with both hands on the forwards shoulder and awards a couple of PKs. Then we'll see how he adjusts his game.
     
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  5. KozIsCul

    KozIsCul Member+

    Feb 6, 2005
    We were definitely better than Burnley, but not crushing. The finishing was unlucky, by what we've come to see in the PEA-Lacazette era of Arsenal, but still good enough to win. We had clean pretty decent hits on target from PEA, Torreira, Guendouzi, Reiss Nelson, plus at least two marginal offsides from Monreal and a bad pass from Pepe in a 2 on 1 break, and got nothing from the lot of it. 3-1 would have been a fair scoreline.

    Next weekend is as good a time as any to be playing Liverpool away. I think a number of our fans will be okay with a bad result there as long as we don't get embarrassed 5-1 or something. I'm just the opposite. There's enough reasons to be optimistic about the direction of the club, at least in the short term, so that one bad result shouldn't derail us.

    Liverpool was way better than us last year, and probably still better than us now. But the difference is, we've upgraded the roster enough to where we should be looking to beat them against the odds instead of trying to find positives in losing.
     
  6. The Jitty Slitter

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    Ceballos

    *swoons*

    So many wasted years persisting with guys who lack the skillset of an elite central midfielder
     
  7. The Jitty Slitter

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    He's good enough to find tiny pockets of space.

    He also looks very dangerous from the D shifting to shoot or playing a ball through
     
  8. BIGHMW

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    (Dedicated to @NorthBank)

    Move On Up coming right up!!! :) COYF'n'G!!!

     
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  9. Serengeti_Boy

    Serengeti_Boy Member+

    Sep 15, 2009
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    How did Wilock and Nelson play. Missed the game. More key is what's our line up at Anfield going to be midfield wise.
     
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  10. ArsenalMetro

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    Willock was pretty good, very involved. If Ceballos hadn't been as good as he was, Willock would have stood out more.

    Nelson was a non-entity and was rightly subbed off at halftime.
     
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  11. The Jitty Slitter

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    Willock does a lot of hard work from the front of midfield but I think at times it confuses things because Ceballos runs things better

    My guess is against bigger teams, Willock will make way for LT

    Hopefully this means less Xhak-attack
     
  12. Shen-O

    Shen-O Member+

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    Jul 26, 2005
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    We need Lucas for Liverpool
    LT is reserved for Lawrence Taylor
     
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  13. The Jitty Slitter

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    Ceballos is the first player I have been really excited about since Ozil was signed

    He just oozed class. Of course if he keeps it up, he will walk into the Real midfield.

    Early days but I think there are signs of critical mass with way more quality to choose from. Since peak 2013 we simply lacked enough class players.
     
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  14. Shen-O

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    We need to bomb Madrid with 50M offers NOW :laugh:
     
  15. casoccerdad47

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    Mar 31, 2006
    I think the change at half time was pre planned. Emery has to integrate his club record signing into the team at some point. Nelson didn't make a huge impact, but he didn't badly either.
     
  16. NorthBank

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    Mar 29, 2006
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    Speaking of jinxes. Sheesh!

    Jk. I am pretty excited too, based especially on what I saw yesterday.
     
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  17. Romfordray

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    I'd be shocked if Nelson ever becomes a regular for this team.
     
  18. casoccerdad47

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    Mar 31, 2006
    He is still only 19. In the Bundesliga last season, at 18, he averaged a goal every 90 minutes. He is not going to be a regular starter at Arsenal this season and probably next season too (though he wil, get plenty of cup games), but I wouldn't write him off. Mkhitaryan, Aubameyang, and Ozil are all 30. Lacazette is 28. At some point. In the next two or three years I would expect them to all be replaced, some sooner than others.
     
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  19. mebeSajid

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    Feb 16, 2009
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    Nelson is 19 and was good at Hoffenheim last season at age 18-19. Historically, players that can play at the top level as teenagers and not look out of place tend to have above average careers, assuming they don't get hurt.
     
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  20. The Jitty Slitter

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    Yep

    Ozil was playing at Bremen at that age - though obviously he was a hot talent who would never stay there
     
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  21. thebigman

    thebigman Member+

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    Nelson looks good but I have a feeling about martinelli
     
  22. The Jitty Slitter

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    We will probably sell Nelson for 40m next summer
     
  23. thebigman

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    Very random statement
     
  24. The Jitty Slitter

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    #99 The Jitty Slitter, Aug 22, 2019
    Last edited: Aug 22, 2019
    He's in the shop window. We can get big bucks for these sorts of players
     
  25. The Jitty Slitter

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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
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    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    Reading about Wilshere in the G reminds me of how many years of failure were tolerated with him

    Hopefully Xhaka is the next midfielder to go.
     

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