The American Havertz: Brenden Aaronson at RB Salzburg

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  1. twoolley

    twoolley Member+

    Jan 3, 2008
    Got it! Yeah it seems to me Modric has a wider lower body/thicker legs which helps him shield the ball but I get what you’re saying. It seems to me that is less body type more how they use their brain nonetheless I like the reference.
     
  2. yurch10

    yurch10 Member+

    Feb 13, 2004
    I still don't really get it, but whatever. It's pretty awesome. You'll get a bunch of goofy people here saying "the market is inefficient", but Biesla (or Leeds' mgmt, or both) demanding to keep increasing offers for Aaronson is amazing.

    Frankly, I'd rather have him be top 1% at through balls or key passes or something more tangibly related to goals being scored. But he's still world class in fitness/work rate, and combined with a decent EPL team (and world class manager) making him their #1 target, means he's doing a ton right. His move to Austria and his progression is maybe one of the bigger, and most enjoyable, surprises.
     
  3. Sufjan Guzan

    Sufjan Guzan Member+

    Feb 13, 2016
    I would add in addition to what he's trying to say with body shape (which I do agree with he seems to be a very durable type) is that the same vision they both display lets them avoid messy contact. These are the types of guys who position themselves to win balls that either don't get possessed or are errantly passed out of duels.
     
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  4. KenC

    KenC Member+

    Jun 11, 2003
    Maybe top 0.1% would make someone in the discussion for "world-class". There has to be about 50,000 professional soccer players, right? 1% would be 500, and there aren't that many "world-class" players. 0.1% puts that around 50 players, and that's still probably too many for "world-class".
     
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  5. Roblar

    Roblar Member

    Sep 15, 2000
    The 73072
    It's really cool that he is in this category, and he deserves kudos for it, but let's not go calling him world class because of it. That's too weighted a term.

    People could be covering a lot of ground for any number of reasons, not all of them good. (...because they make lots of mistakes and have to track back to cover for those mistakes, ...or because they make foolish, unnecessary runs, ...because they don't know where to be and just run around a lot. ...)
     
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  6. PalmettoSpur

    PalmettoSpur Member

    Oct 21, 2015
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    … or because they’re being chased by a bee.
     
  7. comoesa

    comoesa Member+

    Aug 13, 2010
    Christen Press's armpit
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    you guys take everything to the next level, lol
     
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  8. Scotty

    Scotty Member+

    Dec 15, 1999
    Campania
    Well he's already got the Modric-type hairband.
     
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  9. dspence2311

    dspence2311 Member+

    Oct 14, 2007
    I still prefer Aaronson out wide. He doesn’t seem to me to be quite the creative distributor that Modric is.
     
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  10. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    At the national team level I feel like he’s definitely looked much better out wide. But at his club I feel like when he’s played centrally he’s looked pretty good at it.
     
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  11. Casper

    Casper Member+

    Mar 30, 2001
    New York
    Looks like he played 60 minutes of a 120 minute friendly against Admira Waacker - they lost, 2-1. Looking at a little bit of it on Youtube, he played some attacking midfield, frequently pretty central. Probably the right amount of game time for pre-break preparation, frankly. Oddly, RBS have a match next Saturday during the international break. Of course, he could be in a relegation battle in a different country by then anyway.
     
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  12. Casper

    Casper Member+

    Mar 30, 2001
    New York
    Alright, just saw Salzburg's goal. After an opposition corner, release pass finds Aaronson at the left edge of midfield, quickly double-teamed. Beats the double team, diagonal dribbling run into Admira territory, releases it wide to the right. Pass-cross-header about ten seconds later. Tertiary assist, but a hell of a play to help set up the goal. He'll be ready...
     
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  13. ebbro

    ebbro Member+

    Jun 10, 2005
    At most people are saying he's world class in ground covered. Nobody is suggesting he's a world class soccer player.
     
  14. bct81

    bct81 Member+

    multiple (DC United, Dortmund, Chelsea, Arsenal, Juve ....)
    United States
    Mar 17, 2007
    moving around the US every few years ....
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He has a world class motor
     
  15. TimB4Last

    TimB4Last Member+

    May 5, 2006
    Dystopia
    Then I’ll say it!
     
  16. abw

    abw Member

    Nov 10, 1999
    Athens, GA
    Apologies if this has been discussed elsewhere, but how would they handle the logistics of an Aaronson transfer while he's away with the USMNT?
     
  17. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    He'd just return to his club if it's finalized.
     
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  18. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They'd have to do the medical with a trusted doc in the US (probably). The window will be too tight to fly to the UK & back.
     
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  19. eliwood

    eliwood Member+

    Jul 25, 2016
    Leeds is owned by the San Francisco 49ers so I'd imagine that might make that easier to handle too
     
  20. Excellency

    Excellency Member+

    Nov 4, 2011
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
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  21. glutton4Bolts

    glutton4Bolts Member+

    Chelsea
    United States
    Mar 18, 2019
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Turning down 20 million for Aaronson is a bit shocking to me. The article states that they have a big CL Draw with Bayern and they don't want to weaken their side... but Cmon... I hardly think that matchup is going to be all that competitive w/ or w/o Aaronson. Heck... you could add Haaland back to the mix and it would still be unlikely that RBS could knock out the German Giants. But I guess it bodes well for Aaronson getting a good transfer fee in the summer... especially if he continues to improve. I sure would like to see him playing for Leeds though... It seemed like a decent fit for him.
     
  22. bshredder

    bshredder BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 23, 1999
    Club:
    Millwall FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I understand the concept of being a selling club, but when your team is in the midst of the Champions League knockouts and you unload top players ahead of that, it just looks bad.

    It's like - here we are, the big time, the pinnacle of the sport, this is why people buy big players - to get here. And then they sell? It looks so unserious when you do that. It is a slap in the face of your supporters. If you sell now, you are never serious about winning.
     
  23. tomásbernal

    tomásbernal Member+

    Sep 4, 2007
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think it has a lot more to do with Salzburg's valuation of Aaronson than wanting to keep him for the games against Bayern. Though I'm sure that beating Bayern would be worth many millions on its own.
     
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  24. kruck

    kruck Member+

    Jan 12, 2008
    Houston, TX
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    1. They can probably get just as much or more in the summer (though nothing in life is guaranteed) 2. They may be a selling clubs but do they really need the money? I have no reason to think so. Some clubs really really do need the money at some points but I don't think that's as pressing a concern for the Red Bull clubs.
     
  25. neems

    neems Member+

    Liverpool FC
    United States
    Apr 14, 2009
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Sort of like - are you a Brand for the owners or an actual football club? The line is blurred nowadays.
     

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