The All Purpose Other Teams Thread - Pt. III (R)

Discussion in 'Argentina: Selecciones Nacionales' started by RiverGaucho, Jun 6, 2011.

  1. AGomes

    AGomes Member+

    Juventus
    Brazil
    Aug 29, 2023
    I know nobody will ever convince you that your shit doesn't stink but given the domestic season is just underway in Europe, there was difficulty for the Federation to have clubs release players. So a makeshift team was brought. Half of which are eligible for 2027's tournament.
     
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  2. Rattlehead

    Rattlehead Member+

    Argentina
    Jun 21, 2010
    Jakarta
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    If we play against teams like Moldova, Israel and Estonia, everyone here would consider it meaningless matches.
     
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  3. SupaMario

    SupaMario Member+

    Aug 31, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA Tigre
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Honestly, good for Mateo. I always knew he had it in him to make it to Europe. I always felt that if he had made his name with Boca instead of Tigre, there may have been more of a push from the media to get him onto the seleccion.

    It is quite strange though. I honestly can’t see him just fitting into our team. I know we’ve recently called up Flaco, but his game is a bit more agile.

    I known I complain about Scaloni but he was probably right about Retegui. The Tanos certainly need him a lot more than we do. Imagine if he wasn’t there right now? Sheesh.
     
  4. Riquelme100

    Riquelme100 Member

    Villarreal
    Argentina
    Jun 30, 2018
    I’ve been thinking about this loophole that many players and national teams use to their advantage. FIFA really needs to address the issue of players with dual citizenship. I’m not taking anything away from Morocco’s performance, they fully deserved that win. Funny enough, their journey was quite similar to ours at the 2022 World Cup: an early loss against Mexico, then slowly growing in confidence. A well deserved victory.

    My issue is that many African national teams have players from all over the world. Players are able to exploit this rule by representing one country early on, and when they realize they might not make it at that level, they switch to their country of origin. That gives some nations, like Morocco, an unfair advantage because they have a much larger pool of players to choose from, many of them developed in European countries like France.

    I think FIFA needs to make a rule stating that once a player has represented one country at youth level, they shouldn’t be allowed to switch national teams later on. The same should apply to players from countries like Argentina and Italy, if you’ve represented one, you shouldn’t be able to represent the other.

    What do you all think? Am I being unreasonable?
     
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  5. Rattlehead

    Rattlehead Member+

    Argentina
    Jun 21, 2010
    Jakarta
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    France
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  6. Riquelme100

    Riquelme100 Member

    Villarreal
    Argentina
    Jun 30, 2018
  7. SupaMario

    SupaMario Member+

    Aug 31, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA Tigre
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Most of the Northern African players have more of a willingness to play for country of their parents. There are cultural aspects connected to it. The sub-Saharan not as much. But I’ve always said for the most part, a team like France, the African French players represent France no real reason other than France boosts their profile and the country of their forefathers are mostly crap.

    But we also have a diaspora now. We have the Euro-Pibes.

    Paz was born in Spain and raised in Spain. Although his father repped us back in the day. But I think the difference is Paz wanted to rep us. It was between us and the Gallegos. Not France vs Benin. But I think we should also be careful with the Euro-Pibes thing as well. We can’t flood our team with players who are not cultural connected to the homeland. Like that Turkish-German kid who has an Argentine grandmother? We don’t need really need that. We produce plenty of cracks and we will continue to produce talented kids in Argentina.

    I think what makes our team the way they are, there is a cultural unity among the players. The French have the hyphen where they are in between, the Germans are like that as well and most of the European sides are gonna end up looking very different the next decade or two.
     
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  8. aerez

    aerez Member+

    River Plate
    Argentina
    Jul 8, 2006
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Agree 100%

    for far too long other nations have taken advantage of this - morocco being one
    It wasn't as abused in the past - now it's becoming like amazon a la cart
     
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  9. babaorum

    babaorum Member+

    Aug 20, 2005
    Marseille
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    Did you actually ask those 'African French players' -who were actually generally born and raised in France btw- for which country they want to play and for what reasons ? Or is this just some shitty sociological analysis?
     
  10. Burr

    Burr Member+

    Boca Juniors
    Argentina
    Jul 8, 2014
    Tampa, FL
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  11. aerez

    aerez Member+

    River Plate
    Argentina
    Jul 8, 2006
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
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  12. locoxriver

    locoxriver Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 22, 2005
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    No Argentines in the FIFPRO XI lol

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  13. Rattlehead

    Rattlehead Member+

    Argentina
    Jun 21, 2010
    Jakarta
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    #4963 Rattlehead, Nov 3, 2025
    Last edited: Nov 3, 2025
    Lautaro finished 7th in Fifa ranking while Aguero & ADM never reach the top 3 tells us everything about European pundits. Julian Alvarez scored almost 30 goals last season and probably not even in their top 30 but off course English players has to be in top 5

    But our NT gets all the silverwares these days so it doesnt matter.
     
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  14. Leon12

    Leon12 Member+

    Jan 5, 2006
    Man of the world
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Funny how dual nationality always become as an issue when it involves African players. I mean, it's not an issue when Paz and Garnacho choose Argentina over Spain, it's not an issue when Declan Rice and Jack Grealish choose England over Ireland, or when or Mateo choose Italy over Argentina. But when it is African players and they choose to play for France, suddenyl it's a huge issue and we have to invent racists songs about it. Funny how that works.
     
  15. pipinogol

    pipinogol Member+

    May 20, 2016
    Club:
    Cary RailHawks U23
    Well, personally I don't like to see players representing countries whose clubs they never played for (at the very least at academy level).

    I don't like to see this german kid playing for our U17 (plus, from what I've seen so far he's nothing special). I'd would rather not see Garnacho or Paz for our NT if we have options of similar (or even slightly lesser) quality.

    Similarly, I don't like these african national teams full of french, dutch, spanish players. They didn't do any hard work to get those players, they're just leeching european academies.
     
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  16. Riquelme100

    Riquelme100 Member

    Villarreal
    Argentina
    Jun 30, 2018
    I clearly stated that these issues also occur in countries like Argentina and Italy. The difference is that they happen more frequently in African countries. It’s unfair for native players, as they don’t have the same opportunities or advantages. If someone has already represented a national team at a young age, they shouldn’t be allowed to switch allegiances later on. This practice is unfair to native players on both sides, as it can take away or block someone else’s rightful chance to represent their country
     
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  17. Burr

    Burr Member+

    Boca Juniors
    Argentina
    Jul 8, 2014
    Tampa, FL
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Lmao.. Portugal losing 2-0 to Ireland and Ronaldo gets a red card for elbowing
     
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  18. Leon12

    Leon12 Member+

    Jan 5, 2006
    Man of the world
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Crynaldo :D:D:D:D:D:D
     
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  19. Burr

    Burr Member+

    Boca Juniors
    Argentina
    Jul 8, 2014
    Tampa, FL
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Portugal are more than likely through regardless with the next game against Armenia, but man would it be hilarious if they dropped into a playoff spot and lost it.
     
  20. SupaMario

    SupaMario Member+

    Aug 31, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA Tigre
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Haaland has 53 goals in 47 matches for Norway. The European qualifiers are an absolute joke.
     
  21. Burr

    Burr Member+

    Boca Juniors
    Argentina
    Jul 8, 2014
    Tampa, FL
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    While true, he also has 99 goals in 108 matches for Manchester City. The Premier League is an absolute joke too. :D
     
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  22. Burr

    Burr Member+

    Boca Juniors
    Argentina
    Jul 8, 2014
    Tampa, FL
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  23. Rattlehead

    Rattlehead Member+

    Argentina
    Jun 21, 2010
    Jakarta
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Cry7ng
     
  24. Rattlehead

    Rattlehead Member+

    Argentina
    Jun 21, 2010
    Jakarta
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    #4974 Rattlehead, Nov 13, 2025
    Last edited: Nov 13, 2025
    Its actually could have been worst for Portugal as Ireland also hit the post.

    We dropped some points after already qualified and some of the fans are actually panicking:laugh:, when other teams drop points in their qualifier before they actually qualify, they dont say anything.


    Portugal literally had only one game plan, put a direct long crosses to the box for 90 minutes straight. I dont see them relying on their winger to make dangerous run to the box.
     
  25. SupaMario

    SupaMario Member+

    Aug 31, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA Tigre
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    We have 3 stars on our shirts and even though we’ve won it all recently, we want more. Nobody wants to wait decades to win a major trophy again. So, we expect the best since we are the best.
     

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