This year Leicester City will receive between $50 and $57 million from the Premier League for not being in the Premier League. Over $9 million of that will go to Jamie Vardy, another $6 million each to Harry Winks and Ricardo Perreira. Leicester have won 13 of their first 16 matches.
So you're saying he probably could have afforded to keep Rochester afloat in MLSNextPro for another year?
All the more reason for Notts County to strive for Premier League football then surely? I imagine financially Luton are doing rather 'better' now than they were 5 years ago - a reward for success on the pitch, with opportunity that comes from the reward - just as it should be. At the end of this season 3 clubs WILL get promoted from League 2.
No ... their "sporting merit" placement qualifies them for relegation. The league rewards that "sporting merit" placement of failure by giving them bags of cash for three years. @Paul Berry ... there's something about those top four payroll teams in your chart there ... I just know it.
Relegation and $50 million which the very league they are competing in doesn't want them to have. Relegation should have consequences no? Without the relegation prize money they would have had to shift Vardy, Winks and Perreira at the very least. The consequence for Championship competitiveness is stark. The average salary is up from $3,500 to $10,000 a week in 17 years. Teams are flirting with financial disaster just to stay competitive with the 23 Premier League teams. Occasionally there's a Luton who really won the lottery and would get $150 million over two seasons without gaining a point in the PL. But for reasons people are obsessed that giving Colorado $20k in Garberbucks and first choice in the college graduate pool is "rewarding failure". Which to be fair it is, in tiny amounts. Colorado Rapids are worth close to $350 million I believe. Colorado are going to get a reward for failure next season and it is going to be embarrassingly empty stands.
Relegation does have consequences. This is a fact that you continue to overlook. Are Leicester playing in the Premier League this season? Will Colorado be playing in MLS next season? Maybe you also "forgot" that Leicester sold Maddison and Barnes this close season... and maybe you also "forgot" how much money Leicester would get this season if they hadn't been relegated. How are Huddersfied, Norwich, WBA, Swansea and Watford - all relegated from the Premier League in recent history - getting along in the Championship? How come you haven't added them to your count of "Premier League" teams?
Two of those four are still getting (smaller) parachute payments this season. And, of course, all four got the full parachute payments in past seasons and have failed to get back in the Premier League. So your "23 Premier League teams" jibe falls a little flat. Meanwhile Colorado continue to play in MLS...
This is a fair point. Obviously its not a 1 to 1 ratio of "get parachute payments, win the league" but the idea that relegation is supposed to be a punishment is somewhat mooted by giving those relegated teams a large windfall relative to their new competition. If each season stands alone and promotion/relegation should be decided on the field, then why should the league you were playing in one, two, three years ago continue to grant you a benefit in the current season? This is, of course, specifically an England problem (or at least I'm not aware of parachute payments in other leagues) and more evidence of the financial house of cards that is the English pyramid right now. And again., P/R didn't create the house of cards, but its certainly not fixing it either.
Yeah I think the problem for the Premier League is that if they don't guarantee future income, promoted teams aren't going to sign players on multi year contracts and therefore would be even less competitive. Obviously they don't trust teams otherwise they'd just hand out an extra $50 million up front and say "welcome to the Premier League, spend it wisely". So it's a sort guaranteed allocation money to help teams spend wisely. Which they won't. I don't know about other leagues either. I don't think the financial drop off is so great, or they just don't care what happens to relegated teams. Probably the latter in most cases.
Declining parachute payments last for three years so it can potentially be more than that. You're also overlooking "solidarity payments" the Premier League makes.
I see 15 teams that have been relegated from the Premier League in the last decade who are in this season's Championship, plus 2 in League One. So maybe these payments don't distort competition in the manner you are suggesting.
That's great, but it doesn't address the point I was making. Why should the division you played in during a prior season grant a benefit in the current season? And if your answer is "this doesn't seem to be a benefit" then why have the parachute payments if they don't help the team?
It doesn’t seem to create a sizable advantage over other teams in the Championship. That doesn’t mean it isn’t a benefit to those teams that receive them. The way I look at them is that it’s “deferred compensation”, hardly an unusual thing.
Live fans' forum at Notts County. We're getting a new pitch and drainage system. https://www.youtube.com/live/Q9oZ1VNsEu4?si=t44tc9IwGFAUAr7p
Relegation DOES have consequences doesn't it? You no longer play in the top tier of English football and you have to fight to get back up, many clubs don't. Thats a MASSIVE consequence surely?
I count 7 teams in League 1 that were once afforded the privilege of Premier League football, 3 teams in League 2 and 1 club in the National League!!
So does failure in MLS. This is a fact that you and everyone else continues to overlook. Did Leicester get tens of millions of dollars from the Premier League despite not being in it this year? Did Colorado get tens of millions of dollars for sucking last year? Maybe you also "forgot" that Colorado fired Fraser (the HC) ... and maybe you also "forgot" that the money that Leicester would have gotten in the Premier League this year is IRRELEVANT because you only get it if you SUCCEED at staying in the Prem. They didn't. But they got tens of millions anyway ... Huddersfield and Swansea aren't getting the Prem money anymore. They're on their 5th and 6th seasons out of the Prem respectively. Though Huddersfield did finish 3rd in their last year of Prem monies, and Swansea finished 4th and 6th in their 2nd and 3rd year of Prem monies. West Brom is fighting for a playoff spot. Watford should be in contention come the end of the season (for the playoffs) as they're playing better than their results currently. Norwhich (and the USMNT) got dealt a shitty blow early in the season. They look to have maybe finally got out of that funk. Even with an absolute horrid run, they're only 6pts out of the playoffs right now. If they manage to start picking up ANY points outside of wins they'll also be playoff hunting, or in. So, honestly they all did/are doing quite well when the Prem monies were/are being funneled in. That didn't work out how you thought it would ... [QUOTE="I see 15 teams that have been relegated from the Premier League in the last decade who are in this season's Championship, plus 2 in League One. So maybe these payments don't distort competition in the manner you are suggesting.[/QUOTE] I see 7 Prem clubs that have been relegated in the last decade who are in this season's Prem. So maybe over 1/3 of the league being rebound clubs says something a little different ... though how many of those 15 that you're talking about finished 3-6 in the 3yrs they got Prem money? Pretty significant piece of info you've ignored twice now.
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