True, but it reflects the attitude of the member states and these have the right and the power to enforce it. The title is what it tells and warns the UEFA: "Don't you forget what's the core of our heritage". The predesessor of this document forced the UEFA and FIFA to adopt the EU rulings into their regulations concerning children contracting etc. So don't dismiss it as a non issue. The document expresses what the EU parliament expects from the UEFA and as such isnot a flimsy piece of paper. It's a warning that if necesary laws will be made to enforce it. Those sports arenot considered cultural heritage and those sports donot carry the support of a special memorandum. So try again to dismiss it as a non-issue.
Uhm, the case was about clubs (Feyenoord) fighting that taxation in the first place, so it is being done by the Dutch state and when it comes to SL teams from the UK after Brexit it will be done. And when it is legal in the Netherlands it is legal in other EU countries too.
No, but ignoring it means laws will follow, as the regulations around the contracts of kids have proven. And it would be very unwise to go into an Memorandum of Understanding and show you're not serious about it. You're not dealing with a bunch of nobodies. Edit: Yes of course you can enforce it by putting it into laws.
Wait, what's legal in Amsterdam is legal in Berlin? I'll complete this note after heading over to the coffee shop I've always avoided because, you know, can make coffee at home. It is odd that individual nations continue to have very different laws, very different levels of taxation, very different government service, etc, etc, etc You should let von der Leyen know that the Netherlands is now wagging the dog. She would appreciate it, as no one in Germany seems to have much time for her these days.
Are there examples of professional sports leagues in the EU that had pro/rel but have scrapped it? I know the Rugby League Super League was thinking of doing so? I'm not talking about no pro/rel between amateur and professional leagues, but between different professional leagues.
It doesnot have to, as pro/rel is a national league thing and as such can be taken care of nationally. There's no such thing as a EU league or a EU pyramid. The memorandum backs countries if these take such steps in order to protect their heritage.
The Super League has gone back and forth over the years. There's no pyramid, there's 3 professional divisions then a bunch of amateur leagues which have been around for a century but aren't connected.
You mean like the KHL, the one that's been tossed in your face on multiple occasions? You know, the one that scrapped pro/rel - went to a franchise model - and saved itself ... OH, and it introduced a salary cap as well YOU KNOW THIS EXISTS
Yup.....the BIG clubs are still going after it.......and this one is supposedly FIFA backed too! https://www.skysports.com/football/...er-united-in-talks-for-fifa-backed-tournament
Beat me too it! This one looks like a huge problem for the EPL if the top 5 teams join this and drop out of the english league. FIFA helping out with this Super league takes a huge amount of leverage out of the home leagues.
You wished it and now it's real! Edit to add: You know, if you were going to get one wish fulfilled, this was not a good use of that.
So are there any big rivalries across borders within UEFA? Rivalries create stories, create context, drive interest. This is why ESPN, Fox and TUDN are so big on "rivalry week".
If only there was some sort of historical grudge between Brits and Germans. Or Italians and French. Or Spanairds and Brits. Or French and Brits, or Germans. I think the continent is nothing but rivalries.
I'm still not impressed by this blank. It's telling the initiative takers are going to jump over the UEFA, which means they havenot got their permission which is very likely as why would UEFA let FIFA take their money? And what is hampering the for decades going on "efforts" of a SL under UEFA wings is even more a problem for the FIFA. Remember the Memorandum? It's a clear message that national authorities and the EU will take measures to protect the viability of their football culture. Nothing really changed. Except some clubs now are under scrutiny from UEFA and probably from their FA's too for this move. The European authorities arenot going to allow an outside organisation to undermine their cultural heritage.
Nope. The only ones who think they've a rivalry are the English towards the Germans, but that's only a one way ticket. I hardly ever met a German who felt a rivalry with the English. They only feel mostly annoyed when in case of an England vs Germany match the sewage press from England start rambling about the war again. If any rivalry the only one that matters to Germans I know is that with the Orange team. It was fierce on both sides for decades after the WC 1974 final, but nowadays even the Dutch don't bother much anymore.
I was under the impression that the Portuguese and Spanish had what we would call, in sporting terms, a rivalry as well. No?
Depends on what you define as a rivalry. In my book a rivalry is something that lets you talk long before the match takes place about it out of shere dislike of the other team and is good for articles in papers and sports magazines about it. A rivalry has to have a physical impact on you, the thought of losing from them has to sicken you. The hunger for a victory has to be an unhealthy longing. I can't think of any national teams confrontation nowadays with that load, not even the Orange vs Germans ones. There still could be that feeling between Poland and Russia though, because of the shere hate Polish people have towards Russia for the decades long communist surpression by them. Simply wanting to win a match isnot rivalry, as in that rivalry case winning transcends being a simple victory.
Yeah, but no. The FAs and UEFA are terrified right now. And you continue to vastly overstate the power of the EU in these matters, and underestimating the power that these rich clubs can exert. Maybe you think that the DFB will push back against BMunch? The Netherlands situation might be quite different. But, honestly, when BMunch, which controls the DFB, tells the German government that they'd like some backing on this, how do you think the EU reacts? This proposal could leave the champions league in place, it would just go forward without the massive clubs that have dominated it since the 80s.The fact that this proposal jumped over UEFA is a shot at UEFA, sounds like the beginning of an attempted take down. For now, FIFA will want to step in and be the partner, but the big clubs will eventually also turn on FIFA. The game is changing. The money available in streaming makes this inevitable. The reality: UEFA and FIFA and the FAs are, these days, entirely about money. They want a lot of it, but their access to massive bags of cash relies, entirely, on retaining some contractural control over the massive rich clubs. The power balance has shifted.
Uhm, in terms of money these clubs arenot big. Even Barcelona isnot more than a modest grocery chain in revenues. The EU slaps real big companies like google/microsoft/facebook etc. and their power would be lacking towards financially midgets? What these clubs overlook is the fact that their existance and moneymaking is the result of them being given the right to play in the league of the FA, like Bayern in the DFB's BuLi. It's not the other way around, that clubs facilitate the FA. There's a clear rule in the DFB's regulations and that's that if a club joins another league they can't be member of the DFB anymore. In fact it is very much possible that Bayern in the case of shut out from the BuLi makes contracts with players void, as these contracts are for playing in DFB/UEFA competitions. Bayern in soccer terms is a juggernauth in Germany, but that doesnot mean they will be able to bully the German gouvernment into anything that's against the interest of soccer as a community happening. As I said financially the clubs are midgets on the economic front, so not much clout to be wielded from that pov. Acting as the bully towards the other clubs however can provoke the other clubs and political parties in Berlin to take steps to break Bayern. I wonder where you got that from that Bayern controls the DFB. Bayern backed down when the DFB made clear clubs that would join that SL there was noise about last year, would be expelled from the BuLi. . The UEFA isnot dependent on the cup competitions. From the graph you can see the earnings make every 4 years a huge jump when the European Championship Tournements take place.
Barcelona's revenues were over 1B US (https://www.fcbarcelona.com/en/news...season-the-leading-income-in-sports-worldwide) before the shut down. That's just one team. Real is at 900M US$, ManU 840M ... Three teams and that's 2.74B US The Deloitte Money League sits at 9.3B Euros in revenue https://ftnnews.com/sports/38655-top-20-highest-revenue-generating-football-clubs ... MORE THAN DOUBLE UEFA's monies with the major International competition bumps included. You seriously need to find a way to understand the power of money, and just how it is that has it/controls it.
The reaction was about the clubs and the EU. Those big clubs are midgets on the financial pages with which the EU deals. And adding club earnings donot make them more powerfull as these clubs are in different countries and different leagues and as such havenot got any power at all over authorities. When it comes to club revenues, these are dependent on being part of the FA's/UEFA system, not the other way around. It's not the clubs that organize the money generating tournements, but the FA's and UEFA. So the money is in the hands of UEFA and what you added together for the clubs actually for a great part came from UEFA The only fly in the soup is the threat a few clubs have uttered to take that money for themselves. However when one reads the umptiest threat about breaking away article to the end it starts menacing, but gradually further down the text the teeth shown turn into a dental prosthetic. To avoid bankruptcy they need that break away league hit the ground running and instantly make money. Any delay by negotiations with authorities stagnating the take off will cause the clubs bleed money or the investors. So given the complicated landscape two years to round off all legal matters, if lucky, will mean two years without revenues. Just add what that means in losses, either for the clubs or for the financers. Stagnation also means not playing matches, which means for players regressing. For players their value for sponsors is within their country dependant on them being national team stars and playing. They can't secretly prepare the league for immediate take off as they need to negotiate and thus their intent to really break away comes to the surface immediately, which will provoke an instant reaction from the FA's and the UEFA.