The All-Encompassing Pro/Rel Thread on Soccer in the USA

Discussion in 'Soccer in the USA' started by bigredfutbol, Mar 12, 2016.

  1. HailtotheKing

    HailtotheKing Member+

    San Antonio FC
    United States
    Dec 1, 2008
    TEXAS
    Club:
    San Antonio Scorpions FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Oh look Arsenal is going to Europe next season ...
     
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  2. NaBUru38

    NaBUru38 Member+

    Mar 8, 2016
    Las Canteras, Uruguay
    Club:
    Club Nacional de Football
    Promotion/relegation helps to reduce the number of meaningless matches. There are other methods as well, such as seeded playoffs (most notably byes, home advantage and the McIntyre system) and Apertura/Clausura mini-tournaments.

    Now, there are other considerations. Teams are more stable when they don't have the risk of getting relegated. Fans don't see their teams relegated, which reduces the risk of alienation.
     
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  3. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They're upgrading their stadium from 3,800 capacity with 500 seats to 5,000 capacity with 1,000 seats to meet Football League minimum standards and unfortunately dig up their 3G pitch which was shared by the local community.

    https://archive.is/20120731185402/http://www.btinternet.com/~portconnection/grounds/harrogate.htm
     
  4. Crawleybus

    Crawleybus Member+

    Oct 18, 2013
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Great story, they're living the dream!
     
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  5. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    All 1,311 of their supporters!!!
     
  6. M

    M Member+

    Feb 18, 2000
    Via Ventisette
    #27531 M, Aug 2, 2020
    Last edited: Aug 2, 2020
    Do we decide promotion based on who are the best supported teams? Oh wait, no we don't. The two best supported were Notts County and Stockport County...

    Anyway, as a visiting fan I'd rather visit Harrogate than Nottingham. It has a Betty's.
     
  7. M

    M Member+

    Feb 18, 2000
    Via Ventisette
    #27532 M, Aug 2, 2020
    Last edited: Aug 2, 2020
    Quite impressive. They've rebuilt two sides of their stadium in recent years since I went to a game there when they played in the Conference North.

    Picture of their ground taken in 1979:

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  8. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
     
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  9. M

    M Member+

    Feb 18, 2000
    Via Ventisette
    Notts County v Kings Lynn will make a nice Boxing Day fixture next season...
     
  10. Crawleybus

    Crawleybus Member+

    Oct 18, 2013
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    1,311.......and counting, no doubt the higher they go the more support they'll garner. Luckily that doesn't come into it, if that was the case dare I say Notts County Wimbledon and Bournemouth would never have made the top flight when they did?
     
  11. M

    M Member+

    Feb 18, 2000
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  12. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  13. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  14. Potowmack

    Potowmack Member+

    Apr 2, 2010
    Washington, DC
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  15. M

    M Member+

    Feb 18, 2000
    Via Ventisette
  16. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Try driving on British roads.
     
  17. M

    M Member+

    Feb 18, 2000
    Via Ventisette
    It's a 55 minute drive from Harrogate's ground to Doncaster Rovers'.
     
  18. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Harrogate's lowest league attendance prior to the shut down this was 792, which included 105 away fans. So let's say 687 is their hard core.
     
  19. M

    M Member+

    Feb 18, 2000
    Via Ventisette
    Assuming fans are allowed next season, I will predict a 2k average, i.e. the same as Accrington Stanley, another team with a nearby Premier League (and Championship) side.
     
  20. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So the team now known as Istanbul Basaksehir used to be owned by the city of Istanbul, playing in front of a couple of hundred fans at the 80,000 capacity Olympic Stadium, which meant that fans of the big 3 Istanbul teams were financing them heavily through local taxation.

    So they found a solution. They were taken over by the ministry of sport and relocated from the Olympic Stadium to a purpose built stadium in the Basaksehir district of Istanbul, an Erdogan stronghold.

    Their first game at the new stadium was an exhibition match in which 60 year-old Erdogan scored a hat-trick. The club responded by retiring the number 12 he wore during the match.

    They're now basically a government owned and run club, with Erdogan as their number one fan.

    But to be fair they did win the League based on sporting merit
     
  21. Expansion Franchise

    Chattanooga FC
    United States
    Apr 7, 2018
    My 25 mile commute from Worcester to Birmingham took an hour.
     
  22. M

    M Member+

    Feb 18, 2000
    Via Ventisette
    Where in Birmingham?
     
  23. kinznk

    kinznk Member

    Feb 11, 2007
    And perhaps threat of death.
     
  24. Expansion Franchise

    Chattanooga FC
    United States
    Apr 7, 2018
    Jewellery Quarter
     
  25. M

    M Member+

    Feb 18, 2000
    Via Ventisette
    Tough commute! I bought my wife's engagement ring there last year....
     
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