The Adventures in Policing Thread Part II

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  1. JBigjake

    JBigjake Member+

    Nov 16, 2003
    As here, most reports bury the fact that the officer is also black, and also neglect to mention that the dead guy served a dozen years in prison for attempting to shoot 3 NJ state troopers, which this officer knew. The officer had been at the scene of a previous arrest of the same guy a couple of months ago, where he apparently didn't resist, and was arrested without incident. Finally, this guy "did not get out of the car". He was forcing his way out of the car, despite the officer's commands not to move. With a history of shooting at police, one gun already grabbed from the glove box, and the possibility that he had another, pushing his way out of the car, was a career-ending move.
    BTW, the "civil rights activist" leading the protests, is himself facing charges of assaulting an officer. AFAIK, the chief, mayor & county prosecutor are also black.
    http://media.nj.com/cumberland_impact/photo/days-photojpg-095f77807652a7de.jpg
     
  2. dapip

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    Do you understand that it is possible for the cop to be guilty of several things and at the same time to be impossible for the JD or any other prosecutor to prove that there was any wrongdoing in court or similar stage?
     
  3. M

    M Member+

    Feb 18, 2000
    Via Ventisette
    The fifth paragraph of the quoted article:

    "However, one of the two officers involved in the Bridgeton altercation is black."

    An interesting way to "bury the fact that the officer is also black".
     
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  4. HerthaBerwyn

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    May 24, 2003
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    Thats disgusting. Id never want to ingest all those metabolites of steroid masking agents.
     
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  5. stanger

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    Do you understand that it's possible there was no wrongdoing by the cop at all?
     
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  6. JBigjake

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    Nov 16, 2003
    #56 JBigjake, Jan 22, 2015
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    "Bury" means the fifth paragraph. Most readers don't get that far into an article.
    Had the officer been white, the headline would have blared, "White officer shoots black man!"
    Why didn't the BBC headline say, "Video shoots Black US police officer fatal shooting shooting man"?
     
  7. M

    M Member+

    Feb 18, 2000
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    Back in the real world:

    "St Louis unrest after police killing of teenager"

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-30596531
     
  8. JBigjake

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    Nov 16, 2003
    As if that headline reflected reality. :rolleyes:
    Headline should have read, "Protests after SL police kill gunman".
    Again, the beeb waits three paragraphs before mentioning that the deceased was armed, and couches it as "Police said ...", instead of "Video shows ...".
     
  9. M

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    Feb 18, 2000
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    Nice attempt to move the goalposts. Your claim was very specific, namely that "Had the officer been white, the headline would have blared, "White officer shoots black man!".

    It didn't. It said:

    ""St Louis unrest after police killing of teenager"

    Where are the references to race in that headline??
     
  10. JBigjake

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    Nov 16, 2003
    #60 JBigjake, Jan 22, 2015
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    Here's the original BBC article:
    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-30598318
    "St Louis shooting: Black teen shot dead at petrol station"
    Where are the references to race in that headline? :whistling:

    While race was not mentioned in this BBC headline, read the next two dozen words:
    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-29555040
    "An off-duty police officer in St Louis, Missouri, has fatally shot a black teenager, leading to angry demonstrations on the streets. The white officer"
    Perhaps I should be relieved, that the actual headline wasn't, "Another white officer shoots another black teen" ...
     
  11. M

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    #61 M, Jan 23, 2015
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    Once again, your claim was

    "Had the officer been white, the headline would have blared, "White officer shoots black man!".

    So where is the headline blaring this??

    The bottom line is you made an inaccurate claim but don't have the integrity to admit it.

    Just as the article you were quoting earlier said "However, one of the two officers involved in the Bridgeton altercation is black."

    You might have had a point if either headline referred to the race of the police officers. They don't, so you don't.
     
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  12. JBigjake

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    Nov 16, 2003
    Please. It's all race-baiting. You don't have the integrity to admit it.
    Most likely, the BBC did not initially know the race of the officer in Ferguson. It certainly played the "unarmed black man shot by a white officer" meme several times in subsequent articles.
    On to your next windmill, OK?
     
  13. soccernutter

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    Didn't realize I indicated this was a race issue.

    And it did not seem like the article was making this a race issue.

    In fact, coming from across the pond, it was more along the lines of "another police killing with a gun." Plus there is video.

    But, thanks for correcting me. As always, I am wrong regarding police matters, so please accept my apologies.
     
  14. Timon19

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    Everyone knows that outstanding charges == guilt and everything said person says or stands for should be summarily dismissed.
     
  15. JBigjake

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    Nov 16, 2003
    Initial reports were that Al Shaprton's crew were on the way, until they learned that the man shot shared the same demographic as the officer, chief, mayor & prosecutor.
    I can't think of any other reason why the BBC would take an interest in the incident, even in its USA/Canada section.
    Initial reports that I saw, did not mention the race of the officer, only of the deceased, and IIRC were limited on the recovery of the gun from the area of the victim.
    LOL
    Good to know that you're finally on board.
     
  16. JBigjake

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  17. JBigjake

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    #67 JBigjake, Jan 24, 2015
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    An insider having some fun with the NYPD & Compstat:

    A follow-up to an old one:
     
  18. JBigjake

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    Nov 16, 2003
    Nice work, but then, every officer would have a couple for this.
     
  19. HerthaBerwyn

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    May 24, 2003
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    It would be nice if they all had a pair to go with them...
     
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  20. JBigjake

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    Nov 16, 2003
    Don't worry. Unlike yourself, they do.
     
  21. HerthaBerwyn

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    Im glad to hear they can grow back after getting off cycle.
     
  22. soccernutter

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    Jake, you get a bit testy (no pun intended) when it comes to this thread and your defense of cops. It seems that when you think posters are insulting the police, you take it personal and go directly at the poster, end up personally insulting them on a regular basis.

    You might want to take a break from this thread for a while. Just a suggestion.
     
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  23. JBigjake

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    Nov 16, 2003
    Don't take this personally: go ******** yourself!
    :p
     
  24. JBigjake

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