The Adventures in Policing Thread Part II

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  1. soccernutter

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    Tottenham Hotspur
    Aug 22, 2001
    Near the mountains.
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    Is there confirmation of this? Or an actual news source for this?

    I worked in a prison, and 8 minutes is a hell of a lot of time.
     
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  2. Paul Berry

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    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
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    They were probably waiting for 9 minutes, which is how long he sat on George Floyd's neck.
     
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  3. soccernutter

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    Near the mountains.
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    Other than everybody cheering the violence, I'm saying that somebody being stabbed, seriously, and nobody doing anything for 8 minutes would likely mean he died. I have seen no confirmation, and I seriously doubt every sat around and watched.
     
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  4. Auriaprottu

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    Atlanta Damn United
    Apr 1, 2002
    The back of the bus
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    It's not really worth all the analysis, just a fun thing to think about
     
  5. superdave

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    Agree, sort of.

    If this stabbing drives policy changes when the general public, like you said, just really doesn’t give a shit about prisoner safety, that would be messed up.

    The “sort of” in my post is that I’d prefer it if we as a society didn’t think prison rape or stabbings are OK.
     
  6. soccernutter

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    Tottenham Hotspur
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    Near the mountains.
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    Tottenham Hotspur FC
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    I'm not. Particularly because the way it is being talked about, apart from one other comment, is that this is what prison is about.

    Along with the continued, casual acceptance of violence.
     
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  7. Dr. Wankler

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    May 2, 2001
    The Electric City
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    Texas troopers figure out innovative ways to kill suspects without firing a shot!

    https://reason.com/2023/11/28/texas...ce-implementing-controversial-border-program/


    exas border enforcement cops killed 74 people and wounded almost 200 more during vehicle chases over a 29-month period, according to a report released yesterday by Human Rights Watch. The chases occurred as part of Operation Lone Star, a controversial program that has spent over $10 billion in taxpayer funds to militarize Texas' border with Mexico.

    Operation Lone Star (OLS), which was launched in March 2021 by Gov. Greg Abbot, has devoted a tremendous amount of taxpayer dollars to increasing Texas' border security, often using extreme tactics. Recently the program came under fire for using razor wire and blade-topped buoys on the Rio Grande in an attempt to keep out migrants.

    The goal of the effort, according to a July press release, is to "secure the border; stop the smuggling of drugs, weapons, and people into Texas; and prevent, detect, and interdict transnational criminal behavior between ports of entry." According to Human Rights Watch, as of March 2022, about one-third of the total Texas state police force had been deployed as part of OLS, with additional National Guard members from 14 other states joining the project.​

     
  8. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    I'm afraid of anything called Operation Lone Star
     
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  9. rslfanboy

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    Jul 24, 2007
    Section 26
     
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  10. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    Such community spirit from these pigs

    1733898213822771603 is not a valid tweet id
     
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  11. Auriaprottu

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    Atlanta Damn United
    Apr 1, 2002
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    Atlanta
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    --other--
    Not gonna lie... I don't want to have to call someone like this when my home is burgled or my car is stolen. they have the look of domestic terrorists in them.
     
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  12. dapip

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    Obviously the bar veered into the patrol’s lane…

     
  13. Deadtigers

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  14. Paul Berry

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    But it was the ketamine overdose that killed him. The cops might have killed him if it weren't for the ketamine.
     
  15. Smurfquake

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  16. Q*bert Jones III

    Q*bert Jones III The People's Poet

    Feb 12, 2005
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    ACAB includes Paw Patrol.
     
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  17. Funkfoot

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  18. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    Can picture the NYPD union head's response "if all da perps rampaging tru our city are allowed ta get jacked up in prison on our dollah, why can't da brave men & women of da NYPD do da same?"

    The NYPD is cracking down on “flex offenders” – warning workout warriors on the force that they could be fired if they take what they believe is a legal, over-the-counter muscle-building supplement that leads to a failed drug test, The Post has learned.

    https://nypost.com/2024/01/06/metro...ainst-taking-muscle-building-supplements/amp/
     
  19. Paul Berry

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    Apr 18, 2015
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    That's a stupid story. If cops have enough HGH or steroids to fail a drug test it's probably not because of legal supplements.

    Alcohol is legal but a cop blowing 1.8 on duty would be a dismissable offense.

    Steroid use among New York's Finest and Bravest appears to be a major issue and can affect their judgement in stressful situations.
     
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  20. rslfanboy

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    No. That cop would be dead long before being able to blow 1.8!!!! I think you mean 0.08?
     
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  21. Paul Berry

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    Yes meant 0.18 of course :D The legal limit is 0.08.
     
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  22. ElNaranja

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    To be fair, they don't need hgh or steroids to have their judgement affected. Just normal cop training.
     
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  23. Auriaprottu

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    --other--
    There is that.

    And I wonder what the path is for a kid growing up to want to be a cop. I'm thinking that kid who's kinda quiet, as studious as he can be but not a great student, follows the school rules and has a handful of friends who do the same. believes in the process. Might have been in JROTC. A little bigger and/or tougher than the other kids, but has not been in a fight. Believes in both the process and wants to help.

    That's the son of a bitch I'm scared of right there. Because he doesn't know what help means. He knows only what he's been told by his superior officers.

    He thinks he's wearing a white hat when he sees me in a neighborhood he has decided I don't belong in and stalks me until I respond so he can shoot me.
     
  24. marek

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    Lechia Gdańsk
    Jun 27, 2000
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    OSP Lechia Gdansk
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    Poland
    378 officers were shot in the line of duty in 2023, the highest number the FOP has ever recorded. Thankfully, because of dramatic improvements in medical trauma science and anti-ballistic technology, the lethality of these attacks has been reduced and only 46 of the officers shot in the line of duty were killed. There were 115 ambush-style attacks on law enforcement officers this year, which resulted in 138 officers shot, 20 of whom were killed.

    https://fop.net/2024/01/378-officers-shot-in-the-line-of-duty-in-2023/


    2023 casualties for the Thin Blue Line
     
  25. Q*bert Jones III

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    Feb 12, 2005
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    I'd imagine everyone agrees that one is too many. Do you have a point other than that?
     
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