The 6+5 idea

Hmm... I thought Anelka was French. Clearly, I've been misinformed.

 

i meant i n the fact that lesser clubs are feeder clubs now anyway

 

I like the idea I think it will connect the fans more with the club and it is bound to help the national side.

Can't see it happening though.

 

I think this is the worst idea imaginable. It is discriminatory. I think the fans want to see the best team possible. I think the players should be chosen on merit and nothing else. End of story. I can't believe, with how amazing the Premier League is to watch and how spoiled we are, that any football fans are even considering backing this horrible idea.

 

for the english fans it is good, nowadays they get to see a team which they can't identify eachother with. 30 years ago it where players of the city, later players of the country, later some foreigners, and now it is all foreigners.

 

That's largely because we have the richest league. I couldn't help noting that Madrid have just bought another dutch lad making 5 now. They could well end up with a team of foreigners as well.

The strange thing about it is that in the CL final last year with 2 English sides about half the players were English. Not enough but, tbh, not far off the requirement anyway.

 

I watched an archived match the other day, Man U - Barca from the mid 90s. Man United had Schmeichel and Cantona and someone else sitting in the stands, in suits, not even on the subs bench, because of the ludicrous "3 foreigners rule" which meant that if you had 5 or 6 superstar foreigners like Man U did, then your only option was to choose 3 of them and leave the rest on the bench for Champions League games. It seemed like an absolute farce. The best 11 should play, and that's it. The rule would lead to more top international players riding the bench and would basically be "positive discrimination" to try and promote home grown players, when in fact even the players themselves - all of them - would much prefer to know that they are in the starting 11 absolutely on merit, and that is that - not because of where they were born.

It could ruin European football. Why ruin such a great thing that they have going?

 

I would imagine that was more likely because they were, or had been until recently, injured.

 

I thought it was a "4 foreigners rule", but it counted against English teams more because Scottish and Welsh players counted as foreign.

 

Nah, Liverpool had a load of jocks, bog trotters and sheep-shaggers when they used to win regularly.

 

The foreigners rule was brought in for the 91/92 season and counted the Scots, Welsh and Irish as foreigners. It was changed slightly afterwards to allow two "assimilated" players in addition to the 3 foreigners (assimilated player having played for 5 years in England) but Bosman saw an end to any restrictions.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europe...ry#1992_to_1996_.E2.80.94_Italian_consistency

 

I've always thought that any rule limiting foreign players should be done in terms of a maximum number of foreigners in the squad, without reference to the number of players on the pitch. At least then everyone at the club is still equal, as opposed to the second-class status foreign players would get under the 6+5 rule.

 

I think that is the current rule/restriction that is placed in La Liga and it seems to work well.

 

Why on earth is this a good idea? Personally, I want to watch the best footballers in the world and most of them ain't English.

 

Really.. Could you tell me please how many English players were on the field in the Champions League Final? Mind you, this is the wrong place for this thread. Moved to Premiership...

 

Premiership has emerged as the best league in the world because it has got the best talents from many nations. Not all the players of a country are the best. And the 6+5 thing would limit the number of good players in a team. Its the stupidest idea ever

 

I got nine... anyone want to re-count? There might be an error someplace.

 

10

Rooney, Carrick, Hargreaves, Ferdinand, J Cole, A Cole, Terry, Lampard, Brown Scholes.

 

TL -- Your implication is that the best players are English, no? 22 players - 10 English means that the majority aren't English.

Oddly, as an American and an Arsenal supporter I still pull for English players. However, when you consider this sort if idea, it's only natural to consider the impact that it will have on the quality of play in the Prem and it's pretty clear that it will degrade.

 

in principle i have no problem with limiting the number of foreigners if there was any evidence that it would either make our national team more competitive or if it made the premiership itself more competitive.

i don't think there is any evidence that either would happen, if fact it would probably make the situation at the top end even more predictable as arsenal might end up being unable to compete if they were suddenly obliged to replace half of their squad.

 

I never implied anything... 10 English players in one of the most significant games of the season, is a pretty significant amount, majority or not...

 

I'd say the fact that more than 1/2 the players were not English is even more significant. If you expand your pool slightly from Chelsea and United to the Big 4, you'd see that an even greater percentage of the players are not English.

 

for the development of young talent it woulde be great.. unfortunately iw will never meet the european legislation.. maybe an gentlemens agreement?

 

2005 CL Final - 4 Italians featured for Milan (Nesta, Maldini, Pirlo, Gattuso)
2006 CL Final - 4 Spaniards featured for Barca (Valdez, Oleguer, Puyol; Iniesta subbed in)

 

gentlemens agreement? with the amount of money that is at stake? what are the chances...