The 6+5 idea

As I say, how come the EU has nothing to say about THAT? It's a joke!

 

well at least they'd be doing something that they're good at for a change.

 

red bird arnt they changing the rule ?

 

The EU doesn't have anything to do with it because it isn't discriminating on the basis of nationality, which is the issue with the 6 + 5 rule.

And the one hour rule isn't a joke, it's an effective way of stopping the top clubs poaching all the best young english talent at virtually no cost and cementing their advantage. In conjuction with the inability to stop the same thing happening with youngsters from other countries, it's had some unfortunate side effects, but you can't blame the FA for trying.

Hidden within Fergie's self-serving comments, about how it would be better for England if he had all the best young English players at his club, is the unsubstantiated assumption that Man United's academy is far superior to everyone else. The fact that, since the introduction of the one hour rule, other Premiership academies have produced the same or better quality English players suggests the opposite.

 

That's great... but there's one problem.

I wasn't saying the one hour rule was a joke. I was saying that the EU allows young kids to be moved from one side of the world to the other but won't let another kid be driven for 1 hr 5 mins. There's gotta be something wrong with that.

 

Why doesn't anybody think about what this will do to players from countries like, say, the Ivory Coast? A ton of footballing talent down there, but how are they supposed to compete for wages and make a livelyhood for themselves if their ability to go to a foreign team is being limited. Sure, with 5 players on each side able to be foreign you could say the cream would rise to the top, but there's alot more at stake with this "rule" than England's national team getting better and slowing the domination of the Premier League. How many Brazilians pursue their trade outside of Brazil? Surely, the wages in Brazil are nowhere close to what they are in Spain, Italy, England, Germany, even France and Portugal. So now we're saying that they HAVE to stay at home? I don't think so.

 

It didn't hurt Pele, did it.

 

Who cares? English football doesn't have a responsability for developing the Worldwide game, let them start their own leagues.

 

Well, I think you'll find they've already got them but the point is that there's no problem with bringing in the best overseas players but we're not just buying them. We're now bringing in a lot of very, very ordinary fellas who don't add anything to the league... they're just cheap.

Great for the bottom line of the large corporations that modern football clubs are... but crap for everyone else INCLUDING the players who are uprooted from their homes, transported thousands of miles for it then not to work out on more than a few occasions.

That's the point - its not like they all benefit, either.

 

The likes of Chelsea and Arsenal bringing in top foreigners is not such a problem, it's the likes of Fulham packing their teams with cutprice overseas journeymen that needs to be stopped. Those spots should go to youth players or domestic players, if Fulham can't afford them then their place in the Premiership should be taken by those teams that can develop their own like Palace or Southampton, or those teams with the resources to buy them like Sheffield United.

We need to cut out the mediocre imports while keeping the elite players in place.

 

Exactly!

Nobody can tell me that some of the people we're seeing now are any better than what we've got here already. LeArse got rid of Matthew Upson... fair enough, the guy was OK but nothing special, but they then replace him with Phillipe Senderos? WTF???

There are even foreign players at the smaller teams in the 1st and 2nd division and trust me... some of them are NOT that good.

 

You Europeans are a much more nationalistic bunch than what I read in Rifkin's The European Dream.

 

Europeans?

 

Yeah - you know. Us lot from the big bit, with the little damp bit hanging off the side. Europeans.

 

That's very good, nice to see you didn't waste all your time at public school playing wank on the biscuit.

 

I played it in my Geography class. Turns out public school is good for multi-tasking efficiency as well as biscuit-based onanism (hey - and Greek!) and geography. No wonder we're all captains of industry and/or losing candidates on The Apprentice.

PS - It's called Soggy Biscuit. Or at least it is at proper public schools. Some of the minor ones might use your apt, but rather dreary, aphorism. Where's the poetry, boy!

 

So the rich teams can have foreigners, but no-one else? That's just what football needs. Really...

 

Yeah, how elitist.

The big teams can bring the foreign players but the smaller, poorer teams must pay though the nose for lesser English talent.

 

that wasnt sendoranges proposal.
The idea was that teams would all have 5 higher level imports and not a squad completely crammed with them.
teams would have to develop their own talent...

the law aint gonna pass anyway...
its just a dream.

 

Isn't it more likely to be the other way round?

If the smaller clubs, who are now unable to match the larger ones worldwide search for talent, can develop their own English talent, they can make money from selling the better ones on.

 

Ahhh, feeder clubs.

 

Well, in the US that word has negative connotations but the situation in football, (with no draft system), is very, very different. The reality is that smaller clubs have survived, (sometimes outstripping the supposedly 'larger' competitors), by selling talent, taking players on loan from them, etc.

 

it just reinforces whats already hapening...

prenn....anelka lol