The 2025 U-20 Player Pool Thread

Discussion in 'Youth National Teams' started by David Kerr, Feb 29, 2020.

  1. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    I guess it's early to be speculating here but it doesn't seem outside the realm of possibility that Campbell won't be with this team by the time this tournament starts. Maybe Dortmund wants to keep him around. (Germany isn't in the Finals, so it may be that German clubs feel less pressure to release players.) Maybe he'll have skipped the level. No idea really, but whatever the case, it seems at least increasingly unlikely that he's there. That's probably good news for guys like Fletcher, Berchimas, and others I'm not awake enough to think of now.
     
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  2. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The way things are going decent chance he’ll with the senior team by then. Still early days though.
     
  3. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    I’m going to take a different stance.

    Campbell has shown nothing extra recently that suggests he won’t be released. He’s been average, at best, in his two appearances. He’s benefiting from 3 guys who would play over him being injured.

    We’ve seen how difficult it has been for Reyna to break in at Dortmund over the years. Campbell has not shown a fraction of what Reyna has at the same age. He’s likely going to continue to be like 6th on the depth chart for 3 spots the rest of this season, unless something changes drastically.

    Also, chances are that after a summer transfer window there will be new competition (potentially more competition too in terms of numbers ahead of him). There also could be other academy players who are younger that pass him, if he can’t assert himself as a clear first team level player between now and the end of the season.

    Maybe Dortmund wants to keep him around just because they don’t value the competition and he’s a player who has played first team games for them and they don’t see a need to release him to a youth competition. I think that’s very possible, but I’m not really seeing the arc that Campbell is a valuable player for Dortmund at the time of the tournament.
     
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  4. butters59

    butters59 Member+

    Feb 22, 2013
    A few weeks too old for this forum, but have you ever seen Santiago Castañeda who seemingly eluded everybody?
     
  5. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    Yeah, he’s a solid player, but really nothing special. Better than Edelman as a 6 for the 03’s and 04’s? I can buy it. Ready to compete seriously for the 6 on the USMNT? He’s not there yet. Exactly the type of player who would benefit from if the 03’s and 04’s currently had a YNT age group. He’s good enough to be a good player in that picture (which doesn’t exist for us but does for Mexico and plenty of Euro countries), but not good enough at 19 for the USMNT.
     
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  6. butters59

    butters59 Member+

    Feb 22, 2013
    I'm wondering how is he relatively to escapees Vargas and Buck. Really unusual that all of them plus Edelman and Puskas basically the same age, and seemingly of about the same level popped up at the same position.
     
  7. Maximum Optimal

    Maximum Optimal Member+

    Jul 10, 2001
    Pukstas is more attacking.
     
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  8. butters59

    butters59 Member+

    Feb 22, 2013
    Probably depends on a need. On YNTs played the same position as Edelman.
     
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  9. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    Probably a little worse, but it’s not unreasonable he ends up a better player down the road.
     
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  10. Coolwhip

    Coolwhip Member

    Jun 27, 2010
    MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Have any of the usual Ussoccer media types commented on this? I haven't really seen anything outside the original report
     
  11. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    I don't really understand the conversation. He didn't elude anybody.

    This player was from Tampa, played in the Tampa Bay Rowdies academy, signed a USL academy contract, and even got into a first team match some years ago. Decided not to sign a deal with a domestic club, but moved abroad to a Bund3 team. Performed well, so moved up to Bund2.

    This is how its supposed to work.

    But playing for a Bund3 or Bund2 team doesn't mean the USSF "missed" on his evaluation.

    You know?????

    Sometimes there are "late bloomers" within a pool. It doesn't mean anybody missed on the scouting evaluation when they were being considered for the U20WC or another youth squad.

    He's an 04.

    Our central midfielders at the 2023 U20 World Cup were Jack McGlynn, Daniel Edelman, Obed Vargas, Rokas Pukstas, etc. [The player that kind of totally vanished from that central midfield pool has been Alejandro Alvarado. He was on the CONCACAF Championships team, but didn't make the World Cup.] Those are all good players.
     
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  12. gogorath

    gogorath Member+

    None
    United States
    May 12, 2019
    Santiago Castañeda was in the 3. Liga last year, and I believe his team was relegated. Someone posted that he looked really good; I'd love to understand how they got to watch a lot of 3. Liga matches.

    Has anyone actually even seen him at Paderborn? Or are people just thinking because Paderborn is in third, by next year, he'll be technically a Bundesliga player?

    2. Bundi is not better than MLS, and has several aspects (particularly in athleticism) where it is way behind. I have no idea if this kid is any kid or not -- maybe he's amazing -- but has anyone commenting anywhere actually seen a a Paderborn game?
     
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  13. bshredder

    bshredder BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 23, 1999
    Club:
    Millwall FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  14. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    I watched one of his recent games. Agree with your comment about 2. Bundesliga. It’s behind MLS. Maybe not by a lot (better tactically, but not as athletic or skilled), but it’s worse.

    He looked completely okay. Not much better or worse. He’s a late ‘04, so it wasn’t a poor performance, if you factor in his age, but he doesn’t look like a protagonist at the 2. Bundesliga level or look like a player with more than moderate level tools. A decent prospect, if you put the full equation together. Great or one of our best 04’s and requiring an immediate senior team call up? Didn’t see that.
     
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  15. gogorath

    gogorath Member+

    None
    United States
    May 12, 2019
    I figure if one person had, it's you!

    I think any '04 doing pretty well at pro time makes them a prospect, but to your point, there's lots of '04s and '05 holding their own in MLS as well, but there's just a lot of prospects at this level.
     
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  16. Boysinblue

    Boysinblue Member

    Jul 31, 2011
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Other than having David Vazquez as a winger this is what I was thinking right now; I would also use Norris to cover as a 4th CB to shave off a spot.
     
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  17. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Agree with almost all of this but I do think there’s a chance Cavan Sullivan and Mathis Albert play themselves onto to this team (assuming no release issues).
     
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  18. deejay

    deejay Member+

    Feb 14, 2000
    Tarpon Springs, FL
    Club:
    Jorge Wilstermann
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    I agree that he wasn't unknown. Being from the region I am seeing an extended pattern that others don't. I've seen multiple talented local players get upset with MLS Next clubs here. I don't know the details nor did I ask for them but there are two players I know personally who left MLS Next clubs developed somewhere else and have gone to Europe independently once they reached the right age. Santiago's interview sounds about right for the rest of those players. They just lost the passion when they were in the region's MLS Next programs. Indeed, I have yet to here of any player really pleased with their experience there and I know a lot of kids. So something is wrong but I don't think it extends beyond Tampa.
     
  19. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    https://www.ussoccer.com/stories/2024/11/us-u-19-mens-youth-national-team-roster-players-november

    U.S. U-19 MEN’S YOUTH NATIONAL TEAM ROSTER – NOVEMBER TRAINING CAMP
    GOALKEEPERS (2): Zackory Campagnolo (Colorado Rapids; Fort Myers, Fla.), Andrew Rick (Philadelphia Union; Berwyn, Pa.)

    DEFENDERS (9): Andrew Baiera (New York City FC; Darien, Conn.), Stuart Hawkins (Seattle Sounders FC; Fox Island, Wash.), Jose Magana Jr. (LA Galaxy; Long Beach, Calif.), Harbor Miller (LA Galaxy; Brea, Calif.), Neil Pierre (Philadelphia Union; Hersey, Pa.), Jackson Platts (Orlando City SC; Jacksonville, Fla.), Owen Presthus (Columbus Crew; Columbus, Ohio), Chibuike Ukaegbu (Sacramento Republic FC; Roseville, Calif.), Oscar Verhoeven (San Jose Earthquakes; Pleasant Hill, Calif.)

    MIDFIELDERS (7): Matthew Corcoran (Birmingham Legion FC; Dallas, Texas), Diego Garcia (FC Dallas; El Paso, Texas), Colin Guske (Orlando City SC; Saint Johns, Fla.), Cruz Medina (San Jose Earthquakes; San Francisco, Calif.), Santiago Morales (Inter Miami CF; Weston, Fla.), CJ Olney Jr. (Philadelphia Union; Hillsborough, N.J.), David Vazquez (Philadelphia Union; Los Angeles, Calif.)

    FORWARDS (6): Nimfasha Berchimas (Charlotte FC; High Point, N.C.), Aidan Dausch (Coventry City/ENG; London, England), Caden Glover (St. Louis City SC; Columbia, Ill.), Zavier Gozo (Real Salt Lake; Eagle Mountain, Utah), Mykhi Joyner (St. Louis City SC; Bloomington, Ill.), Jonathan Shore (New York City FC; New York, N.Y.)

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  20. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    https://www.ussoccer.com/stories/20...roster-players-korea-republic-france-november

    U.S. U-20 MYNT ROSTER – NOVEMBER TRAINING CAMP (Club, Hometown)
    Goalkeepers (2): Adam Beaudry (Colorado Rapids; Castle Pines, Colo.), Julian Eyestone (Brentford/ENG; Dallas, Texas)

    Defenders (8): Matai Akinmboni (D.C. United; Upper Marlboro, Md.), Reed Baker-Whiting (Seattle Sounders FC; Seattle, Wash.), Noahkai Banks (Augsburg/GER; Dietmannsried, Germany), Leo Duru (Blackburn Rovers/ENG; Manchester, England), Aiden Harangi (Eintracht Frankfurt/GER; Reston, Va.), Ethan Kohler (Werder Bremen/GER; Campbell, Calif.), Nolan Norris (FC Dallas; Fort Worth, Texas), Joshua Wynder (Benfica/POR; Louisville, Ky.)

    Midfielders (6): Benjamin Cremaschi (Inter Miami CF; Key Biscayne, Fla.), Taha Habroune (Columbus Crew; Columbus, Ohio), Brooklyn Raines (Houston Dynamo FC; Chicago, Ill.), Paulo Rudisill (Feyenoord/NED; Irvine, Calif.), Pedro Soma (Barcelona/ESP; Coconut Creek, Fla.), Niko Tsakiris (San Jose Earthquakes; Saratoga, Calif.)

    Forwards (6): Luke Brennan (Atlanta United FC; Atlanta, Ga.), William Campbell (Borussia Dortmund/GER; Peachtree City, Ga.), Keyrol Figueroa (Liverpool/ENG; Warrington, England), Kristian Fletcher (Nottingham Forest; Bowie, Md.), Peyton Miller (New England Revolution; Unionville, Conn.), Ruben Ramos Jr. (LA Galaxy; La Puente, Calif.)

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  21. bshredder

    bshredder BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 23, 1999
    Club:
    Millwall FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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    Marko interview
     
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  22. Eighteen Alpha

    Eighteen Alpha Member+

    Aug 17, 2016
    Club:
    Stoke City FC
    Does anyone know of any streams for today’s game?
     
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  23. bshredder

    bshredder BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 23, 1999
    Club:
    Millwall FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    3-0 win over S. Korea.

    Tsakiris, Miller, Brennan
     
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  24. Maximum Optimal

    Maximum Optimal Member+

    Jul 10, 2001
    Looks like we saved our best team for the match against France. With just two days separating the matches this makes sense.
     
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